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    This comment from Weekend Link Love got me thinking:

    "Yesterday I ate a vending machine blue berry muffin. It pretty much made me ill for about 5 hours, which makes me wonder if I do have glutton sensitivity and the lack of it in my diet has lowered my defenses to it."


    I wonder if it makes sense to purposely include little quantities of the forbidden foods to avoid such a reaction? Perhaps a cheat meal is not a cheat but a necessity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridatism


    Anyone else out there have similar stories? How do you deal with it? (other than being more vigilant about eating crap).


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    This seems like a really bad idea to me. Purposefully ingesting things that make one sick just so they don't get AS sick when they choose to indulge?

    The more I see the less I know for sure.
    -John Lennon

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      Agree w/ lil_e.


      If I decide to incorporate a carb-up "cheat" day it will be done using sweet potatoes, taro (poi), and maybe some fruits.


      Why you would reach for manufactured badness is out of my realm of knowledge.

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        Hooo boy, I'll stick with straight up Primal, no "training" for bad foods for me! I understand some Paleo/Primal folks in the services/special ops do indeed train up for crappy food choices, but that is a matter of life or death "in country" for them.

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          An interesting concept, and as a Classics major I'm pleased to learn something about Mithradates! However, I'll just stay away from the vending machine ... unless its sliding out medium rare slabs of beef

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            Why try and reinvent the wheel ....shheesh !

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              sbhar -


              Innocent question perhaps as you may be new to the site, so let's look at it like this: cigarettes are inherently bad and cause cancer. If you smoke one and it makes you cough or get sick, you don't want to take a few puffs so you can build up to a full cigarette. You simply don't smoke.

              For us Primal folks, you plan ahead. Try to have a back up food plan with you. In a worse case scenario when there are no good food choices, simply don't eat. Indulge in an intermittent fasting. When your body adapts to eating primal, you learn to go longer without food as the time arises and you don't need to indulge in neolithic choices. Or cigarettes.

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                I can see the OPs point. If you truly have an ALLERGY then perhaps this isnt the best idea. Having said that I think it has its applications.

                Example:

                I usually consume small amounts of dairy daily. When I had the (swine) flu I didnt consume ANY for about a week. Then I was craving it so for dinner one night I had a large glass of milk. The next day I was SUPER phlegmy!!! Now this tells me that I probably could cut out the milk to my advantage. But I love me some milk. So, I just keep doing my small amounts and when I do have a glass now and then... no phlegm.


                Like I said, I think its really a case by case thing and no blanket statement can be made.

                Life on Earth may be punishing, but it includes an annual free trip around the sun!

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                  Some people have a circle of friends or family for whom food is very important, and for those people to refuse to partake is way more stress than it's worth.

                  You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                    your family mostly always loves you and wants whats best for you. it is usually worth the effort and stress to explain how good this lifestyle has been for you (and you only - no preaching necessary) believe me, theyll understand. its not the end of the world.

                    challenge yourself
                    i blog here http://theprimalwoman.blogspot.com/

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                      The old AA adage: One drink is too many, and a thousand not enough, refers to the fact that alcoholics who are sober are assumed to return to their evil ways after even a small slip. This notion is meant to warn AA members to resist temptation lest they find themselves right back where they started. Or worse......

                      Thats the way I tend to look at Cheating ...

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                        To me its about tuning your system. The better you eat, the more your body reacts to crap.

                        Being primal means eliminating(almost anyway) crap. If I for example have some processed food like hot dogs, I get gas and get bloated immediately.

                        My body strongly tells me to not eat those hot dogs by recting this way, and I tend to follow my bodys advice more and more...

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                          After 4 months of strictly primal eating, I went on vacation in CA wine country in December and decided that for five days I was just going to have a good time, eat whatever I wanted, and not worry about it.


                          So, I did that, and by day two I was sick as shit. It basically put a damper on my entire vacation.


                          So yes, this lifestyle has its drawbacks because once you do it, you really can't ever go back. It's like taking the red pill. (or the blue one? can't remember)


                          BUT....I do believe in this lifestyle. Knowing that if I "cheat" I will have to suffer the consequences helps me make informed choices and to take responsibility for my actions. Is a mouthful of bread really worth several hours of diarrhea? I can't honestly say that it is. lol

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                            oops, see below

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                              I guess Mithridatism might not be quite appropriate. I think the effect I'm looking for is Hormesis.

                              http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/05/12/the-dose-response-revolution-and-fermented-food/


                              http://www.blog.sethroberts.net/2009/08/29/hormesis-revisited/


                              Taratootie's experience is a great example.

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