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  • Effect of my functional alcoholism on my health?

    So, I'm a 21 year old woman, eating primal except for a cookie or something maybe three times a month, and the fact that I drink diet soda. I also have anywhere from 3-6 drinks a day, occasionally more, always liquor (vodka or gin) mixed with diet soda (5'6'', 135 lbs). Start at 5 or 6, end at 9 or 10pm, all at home. I drink a lot of water, don't really get hangovers, and it takes a lot to make me even get fuzzy memories, and I don't black out. I haven't gained any weight from it.

    The point of this is: what is this going to do to my health, long-term. Seriously, I know that the better idea would be to not drink 6 shots worth of vodka a night, but I really just want to be fully aware of what I'm doing to my body. Thanks, friends!

  • #2
    i can't be the first person to tell you this, and this is certainly info that you could find all over the web, not just on a primal forum, but alcohol is a poison. it's horrible for your liver. 6 drinks a night is some serious liver stress. be careful!

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    • #3
      Well, you can most likely live a long life with this alcohol use, but if you want to squat 300 lbs, it will cause you some troubles.

      I've cut down my on use because of squats, and I feel better for it.

      You just have to strike a balance between this booze and your strength goals.

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      • #4
        1. However long you were given on this earth will be shorten by your drinking.
        2. Alcoholics’ statistically die prematurely much more than others. ex. liver damage, suicide, car crashes, murder, cancer or other illnesses, ect.
        3. Alcoholism is a progressive disease, it gets worse over time.
        And the meek shall inherit the earth.
        What good is a used up world, and how could it be worth having?

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        • #5
          Umm, - it'll be "bad" for your long term health, most likely. It'll also be bad for your short-term healthy, but you won't realize that until you tone it way down and feel the difference. Why not go for 0-3 instead of 3-6? Major difference there.
          If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Guod View Post
            1. However long you were given on this earth will be shorten by your drinking.
            2. Alcoholics’ statistically die prematurely much more than others. ex. liver damage, suicide, car crashes, murder, cancer or other illnesses, ect.
            3. Alcoholism is a progressive disease, it gets worse over time.
            It's not a disease. She just likes to get drunk.

            Don't listen to these PETA, AA parakeets.

            It all depends on your goals. Do you want to squat 500 pounds? Cut the drinking back. Do you not care about being exceptional in anything in life? Keep drinking.

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            • #7
              Cancer is a disease. Drinking a lot of booze is a choice. And if some person is comfortable with the consequences of this intake, and if they are not falling out of society because of it, this choice is the same as playing video games or lifting weights. Drinking booze is appealing because it has such a low upfront cost for the pleasure it provides. Getting on a program and maintaining some regimented diet and training schedule is a high up front cost with a high pleasure reward, but this reward is pushed back in time; it will take you years of weight training before you walk into a room and people immediately see you as the strong guy.

              The problem with excess booze intake is when a given person does not have the requisite philosophical underpinning to function, to get by, to get along with people, despite his or her drinking.

              It is entirely possible to learn how to handle alcohol. A man that is a sloppy drunk, a man that doesn't know his limits, can absolutely become a person that has one or two beers and laughs with the crowd.

              It's up to you, OP, it depends on where you want your life to go. There are many old drunks with decades of booze under their belts, but what quality is their life in old age?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dado View Post
                It's not a disease. She just likes to get drunk.

                Don't listen to these PETA, AA parakeets.

                It all depends on your goals. Do you want to squat 500 pounds? Cut the drinking back. Do you not care about being exceptional in anything in life? Keep drinking.
                Agreed... People toss around the term "alcoholic" like it is going out of style. If you are not an actual alcoholic [read physicaly dependent on alcohol and have withdrawl when you dont consume] then please seek some help the withdrawl can be deadly.

                That said.. if you are just someone who is a habitual drinker dont let it get out of hand and dont spend your life wasted and screw what anyone else says. There are plenty of people who drink every day.

                I would also say cut back on the diet soda if you can... I say do vodka/gin with seltzer and a good splash of lime juice (the real stuff not the "bartender" lime juice)

                Just remember and be honest with yourself here... as long as you are not drinking for the wrong reasons or habitualy hammerd your golden

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                • #9
                  I just preempted the abolitionists for you, so we can get back to discussing the actual facts behind a 6 beer a night habit, what happens to your body, physiologically, from this boozing?

                  This article from leangains might start you in some strong direction:

                  The truth about alcohol, fat loss and muscle growth | Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Glockin Grok View Post
                    Agreed... People toss around the term "alcoholic" like it is going out of style. If you are not an actual alcoholic [read physicaly dependent on alcohol and have withdrawl when you dont consume] then please seek some help the withdrawl can be deadly.

                    That said.. if you are just someone who is a habitual drinker dont let it get out of hand and dont spend your life wasted and screw what anyone else says. There are plenty of people who drink every day.

                    I would also say cut back on the diet soda if you can... I say do vodka/gin with seltzer and a good splash of lime juice (the real stuff not the "bartender" lime juice)

                    Just remember and be honest with yourself here... as long as you are not drinking for the wrong reasons or habitualy hammerd your golden
                    So true, so true.

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                    • #11
                      Meh, I don't know, 6 drinks a day is an awful lot. I mean, I smoke pot so I don't "get" drinking, but I know I am impaired after ONE drink (again, not a drinker) so I'm a) not buying that you don't feel it and b) if you truly don't feel it, then you have a problem, your tolerance is too high.

                      It's been mentioned, but it bears repeating, alcohol is a poison, not sure why you'd want to routinely poison yourself. I'm more than okay with maybe a drink per day, even two wouldn't get much of a reaction out of me, but more than 4?

                      Is the idea of not having anything to drink for more than 2-3 days bother you? is it unsettling? these are the questions I asked myself when my smoking got too frequent. If you can't take a few days off, you have problems. I know I had them, so I worked at it --- by not smoking. Now, if I start to go down the same path again I impose a 4 day of total abstinence and it keeps me in check.

                      Oh also, both the alcohol and the diet soda are nothing but sugar, you're in-taking way too much sugar per day this way. It's not good for your liver from both the alcohol and sugar processing standpoint. At AA meetings it's routine to have other forms of sugar readily available so addicts can get their fix in different ways. You want your body to burn fat, but it can't do this with a steady supply of sugar. You should seriously consider cutting back.

                      Edit: The poster referred to herself as a "functioning alcoholic" (basically) so the previous posters are not incorrect in saying she's got a problem with alcohol, as she has admitted so herself via the thread title.
                      Last edited by iniQuity; 12-20-2011, 01:20 PM.
                      I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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                      • #12
                        Well, I had a red wine bottle a day habit after going primal for a couple of weeks and I found that it completely killed whatever weightlifting effort I had going on. Definetly improved my weights and gained muscle mass since I ditched that habit.

                        An occaisonal glass or 2 with a meal seems to have no effect, so does a Norcal margarita or 2 on a fasting stomach during the weekend but anything beyond that and it takes me 3-4 days to feel myself again.

                        Male, 32 years old.

                        As to the OP....well, not saying you're alcoholic but that level of alcohol consumption is going to leave you in two states; drunk and/or hungover. I suggest quitting alcohol altogether for a while (at least a few hours/days) and if that proves to be unbearable, might be you have a problem with booze. I'd at least talk to one of the nice folks over at AA, if that's the case.

                        Good luck.

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                        • #13
                          AA rocks. If people aren't interested, however, AA will continue. Even with people saying that "choosing to drink lots of alcohol is not a disease."





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                          • #14
                            I used to drink more than this for almost 10 years. From College until about 2 years ago, 6 drinks was actually just getting started . The biggest issue I had, other than it started to affect my marriage, was blood pressure. I doubt you will see any signs being as young as you are and you may never see any. The question you have to ask yourself is: is it affecting your life in a negative way or preventing you from reaching a goal, and, is it worth stopping or cutting back to achieve or correct an issue. Only you can answer that one...

                            From a strict diet stand point, it's just a shit ton of "empty" calories but it does feel pretty damn good
                            "The problem with quoting someone on the Internet is, you never know if it's legit" - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #15
                              People.

                              This will inevitably lead to dependency, whether it is to alcohol or to the sugary mixer (which remember, to your body are essentially the same) so I think we need to cut out all this "it's up to you!" shit. Actually I'd bet my left nut she's already dependent and going 3 days without either would be a test of will.

                              Of course it's ultimately her choice, but I don't think we're doing her any favors letting her think she's not really doing that much damage, or setting herself up for failure. You don't have to be 100% free of it, but you are without question consuming too much alcohol and sugar per day. Sorry, I wish I could be one of the cool kids, but I have to be a square on this one.
                              I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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