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  • The quest to do the ton (100+lbs of fat loss) and stalls

    Hey all,
    It seems there is quite a few people here who already “did the ton” and I have a few questions/ me thinking and reflecting out loud.

    Thus far I have gone from 340 to 282lbs since last Easter and I am shooting for 230ish so by my calculations that is about half way. I was wondering did everyone else hit a big stall about halfway to their goal, and if they did what did they do about it. It was effortless to this point. FYI most days I intermittent fast in the form of no breakfast.

    I know first and foremost I need to re commit myself and cut back on the little slip here and there and get back from 70/30 to 80/20 or better. I know I need to rededicate myself to working out. Lastly I am also going to start dabbling with carb cycling and see how it goes. Also a little more play could not hurt.

    As it is now I go to the gym and lift on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Now getting there and giving myself a through ass kicking has never been a problem (ex-power lifter). But since going full primal (less than 50g carbs per day to lose the weight) all my lifts have stalled, and I run out of steam quicker (not a surprise) and my Thursday workouts are much less energetic than Tuesday, I am guessing from depleted glycogen stores. So I was going to start with a low fat high protein/carb meal Tuesdays post workout and see how that works for my recovery by Thursday and how my energy levels are. I figure all weekend I am ok low carb because there is enough time for gluconeogenesis to do its thing to get me ready for Tuesday again.

    And one last thing I know I need to do that I have not done enough of… sprinting or jogging or the like once a week.

    Thoughts?

  • #2
    Have you looked at morning/noon IGF-1 via 7-keto DHEA?

    Just a thought --

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ratio View Post
      Have you looked at morning/noon IGF-1 via 7-keto DHEA?

      Just a thought --
      Come again?

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      • #4
        You are probably eating too many calories if you aren't losing weight.

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        • #5
          Oral supplementation with 7-Keto DHEA runs up IGF-1 levels in the body.

          For some folks, this translates into increased metabolic efficiency; particularly with respect to fat stores.

          Some in the BB community swear by it

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jimhensen View Post
            You are probably eating too many calories if you aren't losing weight.
            Well I am still loosing... but much slower... it has been a stall for a month... loose a few lbs... stall for a month. I was just hoping for faster progress lol but I dont think I am eatting to much since I am doing the who IFing thing... but it could be

            The other thing is even when "stalled" I can still feel the belt getting looser and have had to tighten it. So I know body recomp is still going on.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jimhensen View Post
              You are probably eating too many calories if you aren't losing weight.
              When did calories trump metabolic efficency?
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              • #8
                I've heard a lot about carbing up on workout days to help recovery, so that could make a big difference. Make sure to pick appropriate carb sources, such as sweet potatoes or white rice, if you're tolerant.

                How often do you IF/for how long/what do you eat after the fast? Tuning up is all about reviewing EVERYTHING to see what you can improve, so let's not get too focused.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by quelsen View Post
                  When did calories trump metabolic efficency?
                  And what is your cure for metabolic slow down? There are a few tactics that I have heard that work well for helping metabolic slow down while dieting. One of which is a carb refeed where you eat large amounts of carbs during a short window while keeping fat to a minimum. This helps increase leptin. Another way is to take a 2 week diet break where you eat at maintenance for two weeks, and make sure that during this 2 weeks you are eating a relatively high amount of carbs (probably 200 grams or more a day). Your weight loss should take off again after that. Those are two tactics that I have heard that work.

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                  • #10
                    Not sure how tall or old you are, but I have been at this for almost exactly 1 year. I'm 46/5'11 and started out around 225lbs. I'm now down to 170.
                    Here is a list of my monthly losses:
                    Dec 10 - 10lbs
                    Jan 11 - 11
                    Feb - 6
                    Mar - 6
                    Apr - 5
                    May - 0
                    Jun - 4
                    Jul - 3
                    Aug - 3
                    Sep - 2
                    Oct - 1
                    Nov - 1
                    Dec - 3

                    I'd still like to lose 5-10 more pounds, but realize it may take a long time. A few months ago, I tired of the hacks and worries over losing weight and just focused on eating healthy and exercising. It has made life a lot simpler. I IF most days by skipping breakfast and keep my calories around 2000-2500 per day, but I don't count calories or macros. If I were to guess, I'd say my carbs are around 50g per day. I can pretty much tell now that the only way I will regain the weight is if I start eating junk food again. I do tons of pullups, pushups, situps, and squats. I sprint once a week or less. I walk about 1 hour a day. I haven't been to a gym in 12 years.

                    Once those big losses stop and you get into fighting to lose 1 pound a month, it's pretty disheartening. But as long as you don't keep going up, you are doing it right.

                    You can spend a lot of time and money at the gym, on food supplements and with a personal trainer and lose lots of weight and get ripped, but is that really sustainable for you? It's not for me. I want to enjoy life, be healthy, fit, and active, and not be starving.

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                    • #11
                      glockin grock, I would say your best bet is to try a 2 week diet break. You aren't really losing much at all right now so it can't really hurt. Try to eat at maintenance for 2 weeks while keeping carbs above 200 grams a day. You are going to have to count calories to do it right though.

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                      • #12
                        The ton? You must be a cafe racer type...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by otzi View Post
                          Not sure how tall or old you are, but I have been at this for almost exactly 1 year. I'm 46/5'11 and started out around 225lbs. I'm now down to 170.
                          Here is a list of my monthly losses:
                          Dec 10 - 10lbs
                          Jan 11 - 11
                          Feb - 6
                          Mar - 6
                          Apr - 5
                          May - 0
                          Jun - 4
                          Jul - 3
                          Aug - 3
                          Sep - 2
                          Oct - 1
                          Nov - 1
                          Dec - 3

                          I'd still like to lose 5-10 more pounds, but realize it may take a long time. A few months ago, I tired of the hacks and worries over losing weight and just focused on eating healthy and exercising. It has made life a lot simpler. I IF most days by skipping breakfast and keep my calories around 2000-2500 per day, but I don't count calories or macros. If I were to guess, I'd say my carbs are around 50g per day. I can pretty much tell now that the only way I will regain the weight is if I start eating junk food again. I do tons of pullups, pushups, situps, and squats. I sprint once a week or less. I walk about 1 hour a day. I haven't been to a gym in 12 years.

                          Once those big losses stop and you get into fighting to lose 1 pound a month, it's pretty disheartening. But as long as you don't keep going up, you are doing it right.

                          You can spend a lot of time and money at the gym, on food supplements and with a personal trainer and lose lots of weight and get ripped, but is that really sustainable for you? It's not for me. I want to enjoy life, be healthy, fit, and active, and not be starving.
                          FYI I am 6'7"

                          The progress is coming but slow after the first 50 lbs haha. As for the carb refeeds that isnt to be a "hack" but more so I can train harder.

                          And I hear you... that weight will never come back on.. this is a lifestyle for me... Easy and great food never exhausted. Also i like you am not interested in singe digit body fat... anything below 12 would make me happy

                          Jim, not a shot in hell I "go off diet" for two weeks, I will feel like crap.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nicator View Post
                            The ton? You must be a cafe racer type...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Glockin Grok View Post
                              FYI I am 6'7"

                              The progress is coming but slow after the first 50 lbs haha. As for the carb refeeds that isnt to be a "hack" but more so I can train harder.

                              And I hear you... that weight will never come back on.. this is a lifestyle for me... Easy and great food never exhausted. Also i like you am not interested in singe digit body fat... anything below 12 would make me happy

                              Jim, not a shot in hell I "go off diet" for two weeks, I will feel like crap.
                              You don't have to go off the diet, just eat more of it. How many calories are you eating right now? If you don't know, you should probably figure it out. You might be eating at maintenance already and that might be why you aren't losing weight.

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