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    I've seen many people say to cut out dairy altogether, but I just love my whole milk. (Not from a supermarket, we got a friend who supplies us with fresh milk) If it is truly bad for me, can people explain why? Thanks a lot in advance.

  • #2
    Milk is not bad at all, it is a super source of protein and calcium which is very necessary to maintain your health.

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    • #3
      Milk can be a good source of calories and nutrition if you can tolerate it. Especially post-workout, since it's very anabolic/growth-promoting and can trigger a pretty hefty insulin response. I usually only drink raw milk, but gave it up after getting pregnant. I do miss it and will go back to drinking it from time to time after I download this baby. Right now my compromise is non-homogenized, low-temp vat pasteurized milk from a different local dairy...it supposedly leaves more of the natural enzymes in the milk that the high temp pasteurization removes in commercial milk. Not sure how true that is, but it's yummy and serves a purpose for me right now. If I didn't have access to local, grass fed milk I'd probably skip it altogether. The stuff at the store is a step above glorified sugar water.

      Some lactose intolerant folks find they have no issues with raw milk like they do with store-bought/pasteurized milk.
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      • #4
        There are tons of benefits to whole raw milk....thats why the FDA is trying to prevent people from drinking it.----just a little mini rant.. =)
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        • #5
          whole fresh milk is great only from hormone/drug free cows. problem is if u drink full fat milk from these type of cows even fresh ur getting all the bad stuff because of the fat content. i only drink skim milk on refeed days, since most of the fat has been removed. just like how like grain feed beef is bad for u cause of the fat that oxidizes in ur system. at least thats what i think.
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          • #6
            I love my local raw grass-fed milk. I've always loved milk and thanks to finding a good source it remains a staple for me.

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            • #7
              In Ontario (Canada), it is illegal to sell raw milk unless it's to the farmers family *outrage*

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              • #8
                Milk is much easier on my digestion than meat so really has been a good friend. I make eggnog (w cottage cheese and gelatine added) each morning and feel awesome....get my raw egg at the same time.
                I still eat meat daily but not every meal.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Chochobo View Post
                  whole fresh milk is great only from hormone/drug free cows. problem is if u drink full fat milk from these type of cows even fresh ur getting all the bad stuff because of the fat content. i only drink skim milk on refeed days, since most of the fat has been removed. just like how like grain feed beef is bad for u cause of the fat that oxidizes in ur system. at least thats what i think.
                  nature put fat in milk for a reason. Skim milk is almost pointless, IMO, from a nutrient point of view. Grass-fed cows produce milk that should be consumed whole and raw.
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                  • #10
                    some people handle milk better than others

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                    • #11
                      ya but nature didnt give cows steroids or hormones either, and all that is stored in the fat. i cant afford grass-fed everytime. hence buying skim milk.
                      "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we often might win, by fearing to attempt." -- William Shakespeare

                      my weight loss story...
                      started @400+pounds
                      CW: 191lbs 15%BF
                      PB: 158lbs 10%BF 33in waist
                      UD2(6 weeks): 168lbs 9%BF 31in waist
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread39123.html

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                      • #12
                        Whole organic grass-fed raw or at least unhomogenized milk is the best. If it comes from a trusted farm it does not have hormones and/or antibiotics and the cows are not eating pellets of soy/corn goo.

                        On the other hand, skim and low-fat milk, even if organic, most likely have some additives. Since they removed the fat from the milk they have to add some to compensate for it. They add dry milk powder to skim and low-fat milk to enhance the protein content. Dry milk powder is highly processed and contains oxidized cholesterol, which is linked to heart disease and not present in natural whole milk.

                        Skim milk/low-fat milk labels do not usually list milk powder as an ingredient even though it is there. Also if you look at the label for whole milk, it usually lists just one ingredient: whole organic milk. If you look at the labels for skim/low-fat milk, you should see that they added Vitamin A palmitate and vitamin D3. They have to add those to skim/low-fat milk since they have stripped the milk of its nutrients.

                        If we are going drink milk, we are going to drink the one that is closest to real milk coming out of the animal. Thus, we drink organic raw or unhomogenized grass-fed whole milk or cream.

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                        • #13
                          What about goat milk?
                          Good Stuff or new marketing gimmick?
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                          • #14
                            Organic, raw grass-fed goat's milk is healthy, delicious and not a gimmick.

                            Also some people who cannot tolerate cow's milk are able to drink goat's milk, and believe that goat's milk is actually consumed more than cow's milk outside the US.

                            Where I grew up, we drank either raw goat's milk or raw whole cow's milk. Never drank low-fat or skim milk.

                            Yogurt made out of goat's milk is also rich and delicious.

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                            • #15
                              Love's me some of the raw cow juice:-) Great for hydrating after a workout.
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