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    OK, just a little background info. I was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes 3 months ago. I am on Metformin, Januvia and Lipitor. I have been Primal since I was diagnosed. I have lost 42 pounds since then and my most recent bloodwork looked like this:
    Total Cholesterol = 95
    LDL Cholesterol = 39
    HDL Cholesterol = 31
    Triglycerides = 121

    Now, should I go off the Lipitor? I'm looking for some advice.
    Started 9/15/11 at 323 pounds
    2/16/13 at 241 pounds
    Goal is 223 pounds or less

  • #2
    Uh, yes.
    Lipitor inhibits the production of cholesterol which is needed for everything from brain function to bile formation for healthy bones and teeth.
    LDL is a shuttle of cholesterol to wounds, infections, tissue repair, hormone production, vitamin production (retinol for eyes, vitD3 for bones, etc), LDL (fluffy kind) is important for the immune system to fight off invaders like the flu, parasites and fungus, bacterial infections. And since it also renews cells and carries old crap out (HDL) inhibiting this will raise your risk of cancer.

    Your TG are above 70, meaning all of your LDL and HDL is small and dense, making it hte risky kind, the ones that give you a stroke or heart attack, forming plague. TG needs to be below 70 and you can achieve that by cutting out grains of any kind. I bet that with your TG at 121 you're not completely on a primal diet but cheat quite often with the wrong kind of foods.

    I'm not a medical professional by any means and don't want to give you health advise I'm not entitled to, but if I were you I'd drop that Lipitor and get on a 100% primal/paleo diet immediately. You could have perfect number within 2 weeks.

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    • #3
      I agree with getting off of the Lipitor. It's poison and that's some scary low TC. I'm not a medical professional but if there was any "medicine" I wouldn't take it's one that blocks your body from doing one of it's most essential processes.

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      • #4
        Ok, I understand the comment about good and bad cholesterol. But, I'm seriously nutty about the primal aspect. I should note that my triglycerides were 1100+ three months ago, so I've come a long way in a short time. So, let me understand. The Lipitor is jamming down my cholesterol (both good and bad) so I don't have enough of either ttype?
        Started 9/15/11 at 323 pounds
        2/16/13 at 241 pounds
        Goal is 223 pounds or less

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Go Tribe View Post
          OK, just a little background info. I was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes 3 months ago. I am on Metformin, Januvia and Lipitor. I have been Primal since I was diagnosed. I have lost 42 pounds since then and my most recent bloodwork looked like this:
          Total Cholesterol = 95
          LDL Cholesterol = 39
          HDL Cholesterol = 31
          Triglycerides = 121

          Now, should I go off the Lipitor? I'm looking for some advice.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Go Tribe View Post
            Ok, I understand the comment about good and bad cholesterol. But, I'm seriously nutty about the primal aspect. I should note that my triglycerides were 1100+ three months ago, so I've come a long way in a short time. So, let me understand. The Lipitor is jamming down my cholesterol (both good and bad) so I don't have enough of either ttype?
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            • #7
              Talk to your doctor about lipitor, not anonymous people on the internet. Not everything is some sort of conspiracy.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jimhensen View Post
                Talk to your doctor about lipitor, not anonymous people on the internet. Not everything is some sort of conspiracy.
                Or is it?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jimhensen View Post
                  Talk to your doctor about lipitor, not anonymous people on the internet. Not everything is some sort of conspiracy.
                  He did cut my Lipitor in half to 10 mg. But said he wouldn't take me off of it. I told him my long-term goal is to be medicine-free. I tdon't think he he believes me. Maybe time to get a new doc...
                  Started 9/15/11 at 323 pounds
                  2/16/13 at 241 pounds
                  Goal is 223 pounds or less

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                  • #10
                    Jimmy boy, I think you might just be a bit uninformed. This is not the first post where you have pulled conventional wisdom out of your ass and acted as though you were saving the poster from the tin-foil-hat brigade. Calories In- calories out, talk to you doctor about Lipitor. Jesus, this is the exact crap that hurts people enough to make a forum like this necessary. If you aren't just a troll, then prove it by taking the time to learn about how the human body works, how the FDA is OWNED by Big Pharma and Big Agri,
                    and how obesity and degenerative diseases have been increasing in accordance with the compliance of the masses with recent medical and nutritional advice (that being the last 100-200 years).
                    Last edited by karatepig; 12-13-2011, 11:01 AM.

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                    • #11
                      And, by the way, I sort of scared myself when I read about all the bad stuff that can happen to you with really low cholesterol (<140). Depression, cancer and anxiety, oh my!!!
                      Started 9/15/11 at 323 pounds
                      2/16/13 at 241 pounds
                      Goal is 223 pounds or less

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                      • #12
                        I just bought the book Protein Power by Drs. Eades. There's a whole section in there about how adopting this kind of eating is going to drop your triglycerides like a rock and change your cholesterol and blood sugar values. He writes in italics all over the place about how you have to work with your doctor because your medications will need to be reduced and possibly eliminated. He even includes a whole letter to copy and bring to the doctor, although it's probably too long-winded for any doctor to bother reading it. Anyway, you should really work with your doctor on this. If he does refuse to take you off the Lipitor now, he might in the future, especially if you are persistent about it. Isn't Lipitor one of those drugs you have to be careful not to quit abruptly? Anyway, you can always seek a 2nd opinion, too.
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                        • #13
                          Hopefully I am on my way with him cutting my script in half...

                          Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                          I just bought the book Protein Power by Drs. Eades. There's a whole section in there about how adopting this kind of eating is going to drop your triglycerides like a rock and change your cholesterol and blood sugar values. He writes in italics all over the place about how you have to work with your doctor because your medications will need to be reduced and possibly eliminated. He even includes a whole letter to copy and bring to the doctor, although it's probably too long-winded for any doctor to bother reading it. Anyway, you should really work with your doctor on this. If he does refuse to take you off the Lipitor now, he might in the future, especially if you are persistent about it. Isn't Lipitor one of those drugs you have to be careful not to quit abruptly? Anyway, you can always seek a 2nd opinion, too.
                          Started 9/15/11 at 323 pounds
                          2/16/13 at 241 pounds
                          Goal is 223 pounds or less

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                          • #14
                            If you are a woman there is no proof that taking statins will lower the chances of a heart attack. If you are a man under 50(?), not a 100% positive on that number, with a previous heart attack it shows a slight decrease in having another. So basically what all the studies show is that if you have never had a heart attack then statins do nothing for you.

                            My MIL has never had high cholesterol and had a heart attack. After the heart attack her numbers were in the normal range but they still put her on statins. WTF? Yeah go discuss this with a doctor and see what happens.
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                            • #15
                              I am a male, 51 years old, no heart problems with high blood pressure. I am seriously concerned that with all the meds for the diabetes and blood pressure I am going to overwhelm both my liver and my kidneys...

                              Originally posted by MightyAl View Post
                              If you are a woman there is no proof that taking statins will lower the chances of a heart attack. If you are a man under 50(?), not a 100% positive on that number, with a previous heart attack it shows a slight decrease in having another. So basically what all the studies show is that if you have never had a heart attack then statins do nothing for you.

                              My MIL has never had high cholesterol and had a heart attack. After the heart attack her numbers were in the normal range but they still put her on statins. WTF? Yeah go discuss this with a doctor and see what happens.
                              Started 9/15/11 at 323 pounds
                              2/16/13 at 241 pounds
                              Goal is 223 pounds or less

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