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  • Following the Primal Blueprint, Mark's way

    I've been reading Mark's new book and the biggest thing I'm getting from it is how the fun has gone out of this for me. Not really surprising considering all the foods I've been trying to eliminate, and other things I've been experimenting with to improve my health.

    The only thing that has worked out is going low starch for my joint pain. I'd really like, apart from sticking with that, to get back to having fun with it, being more relaxed, the way Mark talks about doing it in his books. Not obsessing about whether I am eating more than 3 times a day or having protein every time I eat and generally getting obsessive about regimenting everything.

    I know a lot of people here are following programs like the leptin reset, leangains and so on. But there must be people who are also just doing the PB? I'd just love to talk about having fun getting healthy in a primal way. As Mark says, if it's not fun you won't stick to it, and that's certainly been my experience.
    Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

    Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

    Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

    "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
    Harold Whitman

  • #2
    I know you have a lot of problems to overcome. I have my own, but can honestly say that I don't struggle to do PB (with some PHD safe starches). Missing out on the LHT lately due to injury, but otherwise enjoying the food, moving slowly, sleep, play and sunshine. Only hassles at the moment are shoulder injury, for which I need to seek professional help, and too much stress at work. But in the greater scheme of things its not a problem
    Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

    Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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    • #3
      I'm moving in the direction of just enjoying the food and reaping the rewards. Yes, I did do the reset, and it worked well for me, but now I'm sort of free-styling and seeing how my body responds to meals and timing, and I simply go by if I feel well or not. The one thing I consider is that what I eat is primal, but that's the fun part because I'm loving the food. Today's lunch was some liverwurst and a sliced apple with blue vein cheese. I felt nothing but joy after eating that!

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      • #4
        I am at my goal weight and just generally enjoying primal eating without doing anything special. Of course, I have no grains, but I've also eliminated dairy and all artificial sweeteners. I thoroughly enjoy my food (fish, meat, eggs, veggies), don't feel the least deprived, and have absolutely no interest in 'cheating.'

        I will have a very, very occasional dessert--as I did on Thanksgiving Day. But the rest of the meal was totally primal, as it always is.

        I am 70 years old, and have never felt better in my life since eating this way (past 18 months). All my blood values are superb (my HDL was 118 on my last check a week ago), and I take no Rx, except for my thyroid hormones (I have Hashimoto's).

        IMO, primal eating is the best health insurance in the world.

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        • #5
          I've dropped about 20 kg's since going primal in July and I've never bothered with counting, weighing, leptin resets or leangains. I'm what RitaRose refers to as a Zen Grok, I just roll with things, eat when I'm hungry and try to get enough sleep, excercise and play.

          I'm slowly but steadily adding muscle mass and I've gone back to wearing clothing sizes that fit me in HS/early university so it's been an incredible ride so far.

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          • #6
            Not doing the reset. Not worrying about occasional cups of hot cocoa. Not getting obsessed about any of it. Simply stopped bread, pasta, flour, white stuff.

            Don't count calories, fat grams, or anything!

            Life is good.

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            • #7
              I just do PB and if anything the limited ingredient list makes things easier as far as food goes. You've got to develop some 'damn that's good' dishes as part of your routine. For me lately it's been pork shoulder in the crockpot, or salmon w/ coconut curry sauce. I also don't sweat some indulgences as long as they involve chocolate.

              I also don't count or measure anything. It is getting old that I don't have a dishwasher (or a deep freezer) but I hope to remedy that soon in some new digs.
              Wheat is the new tobacco. Spread the word.

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              • #8
                Zen Grok, I like that lol.

                [QUOTE=IvyBlue;635920 salmon w/ coconut curry sauce. [/QUOTE]

                Funnily enough that's what's for dinner tonight .
                Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

                Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

                Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

                "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
                Harold Whitman

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                • #9
                  Reminds me of the epic 'soul of primal' thread that appeared on this very forum some months ago.

                  Sagacious dude, the OP of that thread.

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                  • #10
                    I have a much longer list of foods that I do not eat than Mark does. I am no dairy, no nightshades, no nuts, no coffee and no eggs - NO choice because of autoimmune disease. I also do short IF when it feels right to me.

                    However, other than that I really do just follow the basic Blueprint. No worries about counting calories or carbs, I eat chocolate, drink wine, thoroughly enjoy my 20% guilt free (Mine in more 80, 10, 10. 80% primal, 10% crap I don't know about or can't control, 10% whatever the hell I feel like). More than anything I love the freedom of this way of eating.

                    I do understand your plight though. It is really hard not to keep tweaking and trying new things when you feel like complete crap every day. I do occasionally try adding something in or eliminating something new to see if I can get the boundless energy so many people have. I'm not there yet. I recently added in d-ribose and think it's helped quite a bit with energy. But I think I'll always be doing some small experiments periodically until I find that perfect health I so want.
                    Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                    http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                    • #11
                      I think my version is probably more lax than most. I went into this already having a banned food list - processed meats like bacon or pepperoni(sodium nitrite), dark chocolate, wine (or anything cooked/marinated in it - sulfites), commercially dried fruit (sulfites again), celery salt, more than a little caffeine...

                      Seriously. Then you take out most grains, seed oils, and cut back on the fruit, nuts and fiber ... it severely limits what I can eat. So I just do as much as seems reasonable for me and let it be.

                      Same thing with the weight. My goal was 140, but at 145 I decided a little roundness looked just fine on a woman and a 5 pound loss just wasn't worth the effort to achieve or maintain. Life is good the way it is.
                      Durp.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
                        I think my version is probably more lax than most. I went into this already having a banned food list - processed meats like bacon or pepperoni(sodium nitrite), dark chocolate, wine (or anything cooked/marinated in it - sulfites), commercially dried fruit (sulfites again), celery salt, more than a little caffeine...

                        Seriously. Then you take out most grains, seed oils, and cut back on the fruit, nuts and fiber ... it severely limits what I can eat. So I just do as much as seems reasonable for me and let it be.

                        Same thing with the weight. My goal was 140, but at 145 I decided a little roundness looked just fine on a woman and a 5 pound loss just wasn't worth the effort to achieve or maintain. Life is good the way it is.
                        Once a man understands what needs to be done to achieve optimal fitness, health, then this man is free to play with these rules to reach some level he is comfortable with at his current station in life.

                        I use 'man' when I write because I am a man, just as I expect a woman to use 'woman' or 'she' in her writing.

                        For some there is enjoyment in chasing perfection, for others there is fun to be had in maintaining strong health but also in balancing this health with a good dose of things that are 'bad' for you. You live one and damn them to hell if they will try to take my smoke away.

                        Similarly, once a man understands the rules of language there is much fun to be had in bastardizing these rules. But to be a bastard without a solid grasp on fundamentals is just stupidity.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dado View Post
                          Once a man understands what needs to be done to achieve optimal fitness, health, then this man is free to play with these rules to reach some level he is comfortable with at his current station in life.

                          I use 'man' when I write because I am a man, just as I expect a woman to use 'woman' or 'she' in her writing.

                          For some there is enjoyment in chasing perfection, for others there is fun to be had in maintaining strong health but also in balancing this health with a good dose of things that are 'bad' for you. You live one and damn them to hell if they will try to take my smoke away.

                          Similarly, once a man understands the rules of language there is much fun to be had in bastardizing these rules. But to be a bastard without a solid grasp on fundamentals is just stupidity.
                          I couldn't agree more.
                          Durp.

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                          • #14
                            I'm only six weeks in today, but I've just been doing PB. It's produced great results for me. I consider small amounts of dairy, chocolate and wine on a regular basis part of my 80%. With that in mind, I'm probably about 95% primal (the other 5 percent comes mostly from vegetable oils I ingest when I am eating out and the occasional small bite of grains).

                            Discounting food allergies and other sensitivities, I think that the fewer restrictions, the better. Trying to do things like IF or leptin resets for newer people or people who are returning to this diet is just way too hard. I've been fortunate to see weight loss pretty quickly so far, and never say never, but I think that the fewer frustrations you add, the better. I'm in this for the long haul and I plan to enjoy it.

                            Just to clarify, I don't have anything against anyone who decides to take the program to another level - I may someday, too - but I'm mainly concerned about fun and feeling good. I wasted too many years obsessing CW style.
                            Last edited by SweetPickles; 11-26-2011, 03:10 PM.
                            My True Primal Story

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                            • #15
                              For me, the simplicity was the lure. The idea that I could take a few simple guidelines and take my life back without counting, weighing, or using any particular regimen was enlightening. Then dropping 50+ lbs in 6 months and getting my diabetes under control in only 2 weeks? Forget about it.

                              I love the PB as presented by Mark. Oddly enough, Play is probably the part of the program that gets the least attention in my busy life, but really - just living like this, trotting around in my VFFs, not eating for half the day (and not feeling hungry) downing a chunk of meat with a bit of diced onion and tomato for a meal? My whole day is play.

                              And while I've gone off the wagon a couple times (my own ongoing emotional issues rather than issues with PB) I find it the easiest thing in the world to tumble right back into it.

                              From time to time I've gone and tried to *optimize* my plan, rope myself into one strict regimen or another, but every time it just kinda makes me feel all bunged up and angry, so that while I'm still seeing success and learning new principles it just all kinda sucks.

                              Then I go back to *just doing it* and I'm back to having a blast.

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