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  • Is it time, to get off Lipitor?

    Please help!

    I am on lipitor 10mg, and would like to get off it, what do you think my #'s would be without lipitor?
    Also is my LDL Pattern A now?

    Two years ago
    male 310 lbs, NO LIPITOR
    TC 230
    HDL 41
    TRI 185
    LDL 152
    CHOL/HDLC 5.6
    TRIG/HDL 4.5

    Now
    240 lbs, LIPITOR 10mg, (fish oil & coq10)
    TC 142
    HDL 57
    TRI 51
    LDL 75 (56 Iranian)
    CHOL/HDLC 2.5
    TRIG/HDL 0.89

    Thanks

  • #2
    just stop taking it, man. you'll be alright.

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    • #3
      If you are adhering to the Primal Blueprint for eating AND exercising, AND intend to keep at it for the rest of your life, then by all means just stop taking it. Don't tell the doctor what you did, but go in for a retest in a few months. Ask for a full lab workup, you can figure out what to ask for by searching this forum for VAP, Cholesterol, etc... The doc will fight you tooth and nail if you tell him you quit the drugs.

      Of course, this is just one anonymous dude's opinion on the internet--you will have to decide for yourself.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by otzi View Post
        If you are adhering to the Primal Blueprint for eating AND exercising, AND intend to keep at it for the rest of your life, then by all means just stop taking it. Don't tell the doctor what you did, but go in for a retest in a few months. Ask for a full lab workup, you can figure out what to ask for by searching this forum for VAP, Cholesterol, etc... The doc will fight you tooth and nail if you tell him you quit the drugs.

        Of course, this is just one anonymous dude's opinion on the internet--you will have to decide for yourself.
        I tend to agree, especially the part about how the doc will fight you if you try to quit. A perversion of the Hippocratic oath, in my opinion, but it seems to be the common "modus operandi" of medicine these days....prescribe, prescribe, prescribe...

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        • #5
          I stopped taking my statin earlier this year. Didn't tell the doctor ahead because I know I'd only get the robot response. Truth is, I feel better without them. While docs focus on TC and LDL (and mine are a bit higher than their questionable "normal" ranges, they rarely consider the full panel values. I know from copious reading that my ratios are far better w/o the statin as my HDL shot up from the 30-35 range to 78 from eating primal.
          Starting Weight: 197.5
          Current Weight: 123
          Far healthier!

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          • #6
            Talk to your doctor about it. If s/he gives you a robotic response, find another doctor. I'm not saying to find a doctor that will parrot your opinion, but you want a doctor who is going to give you actual advice on your condition, recognize that you are trying to get off your meds and, even if they don't feel you are ready at this point, at least give you some sort advice as to when they feel your WILL be ready to get off your meds. Find a doctor - Doctor reviews and ratings | RateMDs.com is a great site for doctor reviews, use it. And, as much as I think that primal is they way to go, don't just hop off your meds because you're on a new diet that is supposed to be great for you and a bunch of people on the internet told you to do so. That's how people get seriously sick.

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            • #7
              Wanted to also add that you are on a really small dose of Lipitor and your numbers are seriously good. Dropping the meds MIGHT change your numbers a bit, but likely not substantially. Truth is, if you do some reading, you'll find that there is more danger to taking that crap than not. Let me also mention that I worked for years for a big cholesterol specialist so I'm not exactly a no-nothing here. My best advice is to read and research and make a decision that works for you. You will likely find FEW doctors that agree because they are pretty much commited to the party line barfed up by the AMA, AHA and the big pharmaceutical companies. There is actually no substantial research to indicate that high total cholesterol or LDL contribute to CAD anyway. BTW -- with trigs are low as yours, you LDL is most certainly pattern A, but you could request a VAP if you want to confirm.
              Starting Weight: 197.5
              Current Weight: 123
              Far healthier!

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              • #8
                If it was me I would definitely get off of that Lipitor(it's poison).

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                • #9
                  Listen to the doctor before random people on the internet.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jimhensen View Post
                    Listen to the doctor before random people on the internet.
                    Depends on how much you trust the doctor. There are so many doctors out there who don't know shit when it comes to cholesterol and heart disease. I recently went in for a physical, mostly to check out this huge mole on my scalp, and his response to my "high" cholesterol was to start eating 3+ servings a day of Smart Balance products(the whole line is vegetable oil based).

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                    • #11
                      REALLY?????????

                      Try these few quotes:

                      "The diet-heart hypothesis (tht suggests that high intake of fat and cholesterol causes heart disease) has been repeatedly shown to be wrong and yet, for complicated reasons of pride, profit and prejudice, the hypothesis continues to be exploited by scientists, fund-raising enterprises, food companies, and even governmental agencies. The public is being deceived by the greatest health scam of the century." George V. Mann, M.D., Framington Heart Study, author of "Coronary Heart Disease:The Dietary Sense and Nonsense"

                      OR

                      "Perhaps the biggest obstacle to a more national debate about cholesterol, heart disease, or any other health problem is the simple fact that too many of the people we turn to for advice on such matters -- our doctors -- are tied to the makers of drugs. Sometimes those ties involve several hundred dollars a year, sometimes just a few warm doughnuts." Ray Moynihan & Alan Cassels "Selling Sickness".

                      WHY would you advise the OP to blindly take a doctos advice as opposed to doing adequate reading/research to determine what is best for his health?
                      Starting Weight: 197.5
                      Current Weight: 123
                      Far healthier!

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                      • #12
                        Also is my LDL Pattern A now?
                        Yes with triglycerides of 51 and your great HDL: triglyceride ratio (which is more predictive than LDL), the large majority of your LDL will be pattern A (large, bouyant). This is especially true if you keep carbohydrates below 25-30% of total calories. If also you're consuming a low PUFA diet with no seed oils then atherosclerosis (what the statin is supposed to protect you from) is very unlikely.

                        (If you decide to go off the statin you'll likely have some moderate increases in both HDL-C and LDL-C)
                        http://thepaleopremise.blogspot.com

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                        • #13
                          Don't forget that taking statins messes with other things too. Like your production of Cq10, wich ironically is protective against heart disease.

                          Oh, and about 50% of heart attack victims have perfectly "normal" cholesterol. And "high" cholesterol is associated with living longer.

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                          • #14
                            I'd actually be worried about your TC and LDL-C being too low. This gives increased risk of cancer, dementia and death by violence (true!). Getting off the Lipitor will definitely help here

                            Remember there is no evidence of statins providing benefit unless you have had a primary vascular event (heart attack, stroke , ...), are male and middleaged. Why risk cognitive decline when there is no proven benefit?
                            Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

                            Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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                            • #15
                              It was time to stop the instant you first looked at it.
                              "All of God's creatures have a natural habitat... my dinner plate." -Me

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