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  • #16
    Originally posted by Uncephalized View Post
    I eat a large amount of white rice once per week in the form of 15-18 orders (30-36 pieces) of nigiri after my Friday workout. It's nothing but awesome as far as I'm concerned. I don't experience any unpleasant issues from it like I would from eating a large amount of bread or other grain food.

    Choco, I never experience GI issues from sweet potatoes, skin on or off--if anything I find they help keep me regular. I wonder if you have an intolerance to them?
    Sweet Potatoes give me GI issues as well...
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    • #17
      On my refeed day I love nothing better than sushi. I get hooked up at the sushi bar I go to. They know about my low fat day lol. One day the head chef asked me if I wanted unagi(eel) I was hesitant since its pretty fatty. But he said that sea eel was not oily like regular eel. Holy shit it was awesome. Nigiri ftw!
      "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we often might win, by fearing to attempt." -- William Shakespeare

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      PB: 158lbs 10%BF 33in waist
      UD2(6 weeks): 168lbs 9%BF 31in waist
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Kharnath View Post
        White rice definitely contains less phytic acid than brown rice. But how much depends a lot on how the rice is processed. Approximately 80% of the phytates are located in the outer bran layer. Obviously, the loss of phytic acid during milling can't exceed that level, and test samples have shown that it is probably closer to 70% (Tabekhia & Luh 1979, Jianfen Liang). So basically you're down to 30% of the original content after dry milling the rice.



        That'll be the day hell freezes over!
        hahaha. Ye I can live with 30%, plus cooking and storage will break some more of it down. If you eat it with veg which contains a bit of vitamin C even better. You don't need to have a diet completely free of phytic acid, just a diet low in it. Plus good gut flora and digestion helps too.

        P.S. It's a hell of a lot lower in anti-nutrients than pale foods like nuts!
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        • #19
          Originally posted by muaythaimike View Post
          P.S. It's a hell of a lot lower in anti-nutrients than pale foods like nuts!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Chochobo View Post
            On my refeed day I love nothing better than sushi. I get hooked up at the sushi bar I go to. They know about my low fat day lol. One day the head chef asked me if I wanted unagi(eel) I was hesitant since its pretty fatty. But he said that sea eel was not oily like regular eel. Holy shit it was awesome. Nigiri ftw!
            I think he was maybe lying a little bit. Sea eel isn't AS fatty as freshwater eel, but it's just as fatty as fish like salmon or black cod (sablefish). Besides which, most sushi places I've been to baste the eel with a sauce that's really high in sugar. Now, I'm not saying it isn't the tastiest thing in the sushi place - because it most definitely is and I'm drooling as I think about it - but it's got just as much fat as mackerel. That's why it tastes so damn good - right up there with the toro...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by spughy View Post
              I think he was maybe lying a little bit. Sea eel isn't AS fatty as freshwater eel, but it's just as fatty as fish like salmon or black cod (sablefish). Besides which, most sushi places I've been to baste the eel with a sauce that's really high in sugar. Now, I'm not saying it isn't the tastiest thing in the sushi place - because it most definitely is and I'm drooling as I think about it - but it's got just as much fat as mackerel. That's why it tastes so damn good - right up there with the toro...
              ya i figured but seeing as tho i didnt eat any other fat i thought well 2 pieces wont hurt... i mainly eat shrimp, octopus, halibut oh man i better stop i want some now.
              "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we often might win, by fearing to attempt." -- William Shakespeare

              my weight loss story...
              started @400+pounds
              CW: 191lbs 15%BF
              PB: 158lbs 10%BF 33in waist
              UD2(6 weeks): 168lbs 9%BF 31in waist
              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread39123.html

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              • #22
                Originally posted by spughy View Post
                I think he was maybe lying a little bit. Sea eel isn't AS fatty as freshwater eel, but it's just as fatty as fish like salmon or black cod (sablefish). Besides which, most sushi places I've been to baste the eel with a sauce that's really high in sugar. Now, I'm not saying it isn't the tastiest thing in the sushi place - because it most definitely is and I'm drooling as I think about it - but it's got just as much fat as mackerel. That's why it tastes so damn good - right up there with the toro...
                One of the best meals I ever had - long before primal - in Hakata in southern Japan, which is known for its eels. The restaurant menu is "half an animal, or the whole animal" - that's the translation. I went for the whole animal. The catch it in the tank, spear it, filet, and grill it in front of you, takes about 5 minutes to your table, practically twitching, with the deepest darkest kind of Japanese sauce you've ever tasted - think dark roasted not-that-sweet teriyaki, sort of. over a bed of white rice. AMAZING.
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                • #23
                  I would be more concerned about frying in walnut oil than eating a bit of rice. Before I did the leptin reset and had cravings, I used to judge carbs by how much they increased cravings. A tablespoon or two of white rice occasionally was no problem.

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                  • #24
                    A tbs or two. Man that's 2 pieces of sushi if that. I go thru about 30 to 40 pieces one sitting at sushi buffet on refeeds. That's barely what 240g of carbs childs play.
                    "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we often might win, by fearing to attempt." -- William Shakespeare

                    my weight loss story...
                    started @400+pounds
                    CW: 191lbs 15%BF
                    PB: 158lbs 10%BF 33in waist
                    UD2(6 weeks): 168lbs 9%BF 31in waist
                    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread39123.html

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                    • #25
                      Try wild rice! It's all wild seeds, not really even rice. A lot more nutrients, there!
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                      • #26
                        Yea, but there are many more anti-nutrients in wild rice, too. IMO it's silly to compare nutrients in a starch source since they're all very lacking. The difference in nutrition between white rice and wild rice is very little in the grand scheme of things, but white rice is so much cleaner I'd rather use it and just make up the nutrition with other food.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by PrimalMark
                          Rice AINT primal. If you think eating like a chinese field worker is primal then you need to read MS's book again folks. Hate to sound nasty but just relax on the rice. Heck, are you doing Dr McDougall or Mark Sisson? lol!

                          McDougall is a skinny rice dweeb. I dont want to be a stick either so bulk up and leave the chronic cardio for the posers.
                          Another post from you thats full of shit, you are just plain wrong.

                          Posted once before, but you should read it this time - Is Rice Unhealthy? | Mark's Daily Apple

                          Another one - White Rice: Agent of Disease, a Sensible Choice, or Healthsaver? | Free The Animal
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by PrimalMark
                            Rice AINT primal. If you think eating like a chinese field worker is primal then you need to read MS's book again folks. Hate to sound nasty but just relax on the rice. Heck, are you doing Dr McDougall or Mark Sisson? lol!

                            McDougall is a skinny rice dweeb. I dont want to be a stick either so bulk up and leave the chronic cardio for the posers.
                            Just because something is neolithic doesn't mean it's unhealthy. Rice is very similar to white potato, yet it's lower GI and lower in anti-nutrients. It's one of the healthiest starch sources in terms of anti-nutrients.

                            Lifting weights isn't Primal, either. I doubt Grok had a weight bench, an Olympic bar and 300 lbs of iron plates, yet everyone in the Primal/Paleo world seems to advocate it. It's a lot safer than dragging a rock, too.
                            Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by PrimalMark
                              Rice AINT primal. If you think eating like a chinese field worker is primal then you need to read MS's book again folks. Hate to sound nasty but just relax on the rice. Heck, are you doing Dr McDougall or Mark Sisson? lol!

                              McDougall is a skinny rice dweeb. I dont want to be a stick either so bulk up and leave the chronic cardio for the posers.
                              theres a bunch of things that arent primal yet ppl do it anyway. nuts, coffee, like choco said lifting weights, etc. ur looking at primal in the wrong light, i see primal as a way of living healthfully, for me 90% of my meals i cook myself, i dont consume any nuts, fraken oils, wheats or legumes. i smash the gym and feel great about it. so if eating white rice is wrong on refeeds than mark me as anti-primal... because im toxic free and happier than ive ever been.
                              "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we often might win, by fearing to attempt." -- William Shakespeare

                              my weight loss story...
                              started @400+pounds
                              CW: 191lbs 15%BF
                              PB: 158lbs 10%BF 33in waist
                              UD2(6 weeks): 168lbs 9%BF 31in waist
                              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread39123.html

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