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    I have developed a mild lactose intolerance in recent years. I know I felt much better and unplugged my sinuses plus losing about five pounds of bloat when I cut it from my diet completely.

    But I've been missing out on all those yummy things like cream in my tea. Then I started reading around here about raw dairy being well tolerated by many people who have lactose intolerance. The "intolerance" is really, so the theory goes, about the pasteurization and homogenization making milk products unrecognizable "non-foods" to your body.

    So I decided to give it a try. Raw dairy is perfectly legal in California but not easy to find but I finally did. I am trying the butter, cream, and kefir to start with.

    So far so good. 24 hours into the experiment and no adverse effects.
    Oh, and raw milk butter is orders of magnitude yummier than even Kerrygold.

    Anybody else have an n=1 to add?

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    Yep, hated milk for years, didn't like the taste, gave me gas, ick.

    Got a connection for raw milk here and I love the stuff, I can actually drink it straight, it tastes good, no gas. Good stuff.

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    • #3
      Although the butter and cream are both heavenly, I must say I am not too impressed with the kefir. It tastes OK but it is kind of lumpy like buttermilk.

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      • #4
        I was sensitive to milk and my kids were completely intolerant. We found a local (three jersey cow) grass-fed farm that sells raw milk. Wow, is it good and the kids and I do great on it. In fact I feel it is a huge bonus in our diet. It has made my arthritis in my hands go away too, which is a great sign that it is acting ANTI- inflammatory in my body. I could live off of it exclusively I think, although if I don't eat other things it makes me cold. It makes me feel so great though that I regret having to eat other foods. When it's warm out I might just go 100% raw milk. Totally not paleo, but nothing in the world has made me feel better.
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        • #5
          Keep in mind that putting the cream in a hot drink essentially pasteurizes it. I'm sure it's still infinitely better than store pasteurized/homoginized, but if you are experimenting you should understand that you could have a different response (some don't considered it raw if heated...).

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          • #6
            I don't do raw exclusively, but I'm noticing that I do better the more natural dairy I use. I had coffee with regular cream the other day from my local coffee shop and had a little stomach pain. I don't get that when I make it at home with organic cream (I really like Strauss Creamery products).
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            • #7
              I have had what I thought was raw dairy (goat) and have just as much problem as other dairy. Then again, I don't have a problem with cream, just with un- or under-cultured milk. Kudos to you for being able to find raw dairy in a state where it is supposedly legal.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by egger View Post
                Keep in mind that putting the cream in a hot drink essentially pasteurizes it. I'm sure it's still infinitely better than store pasteurized/homoginized, but if you are experimenting you should understand that you could have a different response (some don't considered it raw if heated...).
                Interesting. Do you happen to know at what temperature it would make a difference?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
                  I was sensitive to milk and my kids were completely intolerant. We found a local (three jersey cow) grass-fed farm that sells raw milk. Wow, is it good and the kids and I do great on it. In fact I feel it is a huge bonus in our diet. It has made my arthritis in my hands go away too, which is a great sign that it is acting ANTI- inflammatory in my body. I could live off of it exclusively I think, although if I don't eat other things it makes me cold. It makes me feel so great though that I regret having to eat other foods. When it's warm out I might just go 100% raw milk. Totally not paleo, but nothing in the world has made me feel better.
                  Wow. That's great. Piano Doctor Lady was just saying on another thread how she had given up dairy to try to make her arthritis better. Maybe she just needs the raw stuff.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lucyh View Post
                    I don't do raw exclusively, but I'm noticing that I do better the more natural dairy I use. I had coffee with regular cream the other day from my local coffee shop and had a little stomach pain. I don't get that when I make it at home with organic cream (I really like Strauss Creamery products).
                    Hey, fellow San Diegan. I got my raw stuff at the People's Co-op in Ocean Beach. Henry's has raw milk but not the other stuff.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Paleobirdy View Post
                      I have had what I thought was raw dairy (goat) and have just as much problem as other dairy. Then again, I don't have a problem with cream, just with un- or under-cultured milk. Kudos to you for being able to find raw dairy in a state where it is supposedly legal.....
                      It's perfectly legal. There just isn't that much mainstream demand for it. I hope the word gets out and it becomes more widely available.

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                      • #12
                        Milk always gave me a stomach ache and gas. Eventually when I was in high school I decided to stop drinking the stuff. Just this January I started drinking raw milk. Doesn't bother me at all. It is delicious and delightful. I feel so nourished when I drink it.

                        It is legal here in MA but has to be purchased at the farm. I'm lucky enough to live only 20 minutes from one (and an hour from another in the other direction). I can't get raw cream or butter though. I do get my heavy cream from grass fed cows. It's funny, that farm is less than 5 minutes away from me but that I have to get it at a store which is 15 to 20 minutes away. I buy Smjor Icelandic butter.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by newberrycrater View Post
                          Milk always gave me a stomach ache and gas. Eventually when I was in high school I decided to stop drinking the stuff. Just this January I started drinking raw milk. Doesn't bother me at all. It is delicious and delightful. I feel so nourished when I drink it.

                          It is legal here in MA but has to be purchased at the farm. I'm lucky enough to live only 20 minutes from one (and an hour from another in the other direction). I can't get raw cream or butter though. I do get my heavy cream from grass fed cows. It's funny, that farm is less than 5 minutes away from me but that I have to get it at a store which is 15 to 20 minutes away. I buy Smjor Icelandic butter.
                          Exactly. It does feel nourishing in a very profound way.
                          That's interesting how the laws about this are so different from state to state. In California you can sell raw dairy but you can't take it across state lines. So a dairy right on the Nevada border a good 8 hours drive north from me can sell raw dairy to me but not to the folks right on the other side of the border 15 minutes away. How much sense does that make?

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                          • #14
                            Does anybody have experience drinking other raw milks that aren't from cows? I remember going to China in the countryside and trying raw buffalo milk, which was f'ing delicious. Hoping to maybe find something like that in the states, esp. in California
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                              I have developed a mild lactose intolerance in recent years. I know I felt much better and unplugged my sinuses plus losing about five pounds of bloat when I cut it from my diet completely.

                              But I've been missing out on all those yummy things like cream in my tea. Then I started reading around here about raw dairy being well tolerated by many people who have lactose intolerance. The "intolerance" is really, so the theory goes, about the pasteurization and homogenization making milk products unrecognizable "non-foods" to your body.

                              So I decided to give it a try. Raw dairy is perfectly legal in California but not easy to find but I finally did. I am trying the butter, cream, and kefir to start with.

                              So far so good. 24 hours into the experiment and no adverse effects.
                              Oh, and raw milk butter is orders of magnitude yummier than even Kerrygold.

                              Anybody else have an n=1 to add?
                              I love raw dairy products. I live in California too, and it is very difficult to find raw milk. Did you hear about the bust they did in Venice because they had raw dairy products at a co-op/health food store?
                              Armed Cops Raid Health Food Store in Raw Milk Crackdown (VIDEO) | TakePart - News, Culture, Videos and Photos That Make the World Better
                              Ridiculous.

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