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    I am working with a malnourished Guatemalan family who subsist primarily on wheat, corn, beans, and sugar. An obese father with bad intestinal problems and arthritis, a type 1 diabetic overweight mother, and an overweight 12 and 14 year old boy and girl who are failing classes. The father explained to me that he can't understand why they're falling apart at 40 years old and going broke from medical bills when his grandmother lived to be 105 and never once saw the inside of a hospital. I'm starting to counsel them on how to eat more paleo.

    The father claims that when he eats fat his stomach becomes rapidly irritated and can cause diarrhea. He cited this happening mostly with pork lard and animal fats, but he seems to have more of a tolerance to chicken fat and vegetable oil. I advised him to go ahead and eat a higher protein and higher vegetable diet and add in as much quality fats as possible, increasing the amount as he gets used to it.

    Could this just be an adjustment phase thing for a very damaged body or is it possible he has a more serious problem with his intestines or gall bladder?
    Last edited by PeaceCorpsCaveMan; 11-07-2011, 06:19 AM.

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    I am very sensitive to fats, and some fats are Okay with me, and some just make me sick. Fried bacon or fried chicken or butter can give me nausea and upset stomach. That's why I go Paleo rather than Primal. He can eat paleo, which is actually quite low fat. It is Primal that is high in fat. How does he cook his meats that his stomach gets irritated? Is he frying them with huge amounts of oil or butter or cream or something like that? Does he spice it excessively? Is just broiling or boiling meat as is, under broiler solves the problem?
    Last edited by Leida; 11-07-2011, 06:22 AM.
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    • #3
      it's that peasant superstition.

      i wouldn't waste the time with these people.

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      • #4
        [QUOTE=dado;618677]it's that peasant superstition.

        i wouldn't waste the time with these people.[/QUOT

        Stop with these non-contributions.

        Have him eat the fat he likes (not the veggie oil if it can be helped) but I think tons of vegetables (for $$ sake) plus as many good proteins as they can get is going to help this family a lot.
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        • #5
          How about eggs, avocados, raw nuts....how does he do with things like that?
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          • #6
            [QUOTE=iniQuity;618697]
            Originally posted by dado View Post
            it's that peasant superstition.

            i wouldn't waste the time with these people.[/QUOT

            Stop with these non-contributions.

            Have him eat the fat he likes (not the veggie oil if it can be helped) but I think tons of vegetables (for $$ sake) plus as many good proteins as they can get is going to help this family a lot.
            How is this a non-contribution?

            It's a waste of time, always, to attempt to help people that can't help themselves. The average IQ of Guatamala is in the low 80s.

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            • #7
              Wow, what a racist pig you are.

              You'd think that YOUR I.Q. was in the low 20's for even posting something like that.

              Great job.

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              • #8
                I have a lot of experience with Guatemalan folks, ordinary folks in rural communities. I would not describe them in such a negative way, ever, and they certainly are not a waste of time.

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                • #9
                  Maybe that sounded harsh. But having a low IQ is not describing anyone in a negative way, that's just biology. I am just saying that it is very hard to talk to people with deeply rooted peasant superstitions; I should know, I come from stubborn peasants myself, a couple generations ago.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Leida View Post
                    I am very sensitive to fats, and some fats are Okay with me, and some just make me sick. Fried bacon or fried chicken or butter can give me nausea and upset stomach. That's why I go Paleo rather than Primal. He can eat paleo, which is actually quite low fat. It is Primal that is high in fat. How does he cook his meats that his stomach gets irritated? Is he frying them with huge amounts of oil or butter or cream or something like that? Does he spice it excessively? Is just broiling or boiling meat as is, under broiler solves the problem?
                    He avoids fats and oils as much as possible except for a few eggs a week, some vegetable oil, and whatever fat is in the approximately 4 oz daily portion of lean meat. The meat is generally boiled in soup, if present at all.

                    I'm not sure if I agree with that distinction between Paleo and Primal.

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                    • #11
                      To me, the distinction between paleo and primal is that primal is a marketing package, where as paleo is just the diet. Paleo is a part of primal, but primal is not paleo.

                      Primal is the marketing concept that includes the fitness element, and the Grok element.

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                      • #12
                        I will dance the day you no longer come around here anymore, dado.
                        "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TigerLily View Post
                          I will dance the day you no longer come around here anymore, dado.
                          If you click on my name and go to "View Profile", there is an option to add me to the ignore list. I encourage you to make use of this, so that you may save yourself the stress and agitation of having to deal with such things as Truth and Reality.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tradawg View Post
                            How about eggs, avocados, raw nuts....how does he do with things like that?
                            They produce lots of eggs in the household (from chronically malnourished chickens and ducks), but they have avoided eating more than 1 or 2 per day because of fear of cholesterol. Maybe their fear of cholesterol rubbed off from those white-man superstitious beliefs that egg yolks are bad for you.

                            Avocados are abundant and cheap right now, but they are not used to eating a lot of fresh foods. Nuts are very expensive here, but he is able to tolerate peanuts (Pea"nuts"). I'm going to suggest he get more avocado in his diet if it works for him.
                            Last edited by PeaceCorpsCaveMan; 11-07-2011, 09:37 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Get him off wheat and sugar first. That alone may make a huge difference. Tell him he can eat as many as 25 eggs a day:
                              Two dozen eggs please

                              Pasito a paso... small steps.

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