Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Steve Jobs, Carbovore?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Steve Jobs, Carbovore?

    Did a Dangerously Low-Fat Diet Cause Steve Jobs’ Cancer to Spread Uncontrollably? | Butter Believer

    Somehow, this is relevant to us.

    Thoughts?
    Blag: The FPSJosh01 Ego Experience
    Follow me on google+
    Superraw: the Autism Buster blag
    "Don't spread the word, spread the butter"

  • #2
    I read a different article saying he wanted to try alternative methods and suggested his cancer wasn't so severe at first and was treatable, and others saying he was one of those "want to die young" type of people, so maybe he didn't care to perish early. I'm sure a better diet would've helped, cancer cells love sugar, which is why fasting and low carb diets have been effective as preventive measures, and in cases of confirmed cancer, fasting can help "starve" the cells though it may not erradicate them completely. It also depends on the type of cancer, severity, etc etc (What I Learned from Cancer)

    I don't know much about Jobs, but I'm told he was more in charge of aesthetics at Apple, since my first inclination was to think "how could someone that drove technology be so against it when it came to his own treatment?" but please correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe he was more intimately involved in OS development and all of that.
    I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

    Comment


    • #3
      His type of cancer was operable, but the diet measures he took, according to butter believer*, was what did him in.

      I don't see a reason why it couldn't be true.
      Last edited by fpsjosh01; 11-02-2011, 07:38 AM. Reason: *I like this source, it's what started me on GAPS
      Blag: The FPSJosh01 Ego Experience
      Follow me on google+
      Superraw: the Autism Buster blag
      "Don't spread the word, spread the butter"

      Comment


      • #4
        He was a practicing Buddhist for many years, so a veg*n diet would have made a lot of sense to him in a spiritual sense as well. I'm not sure if he was veg*n before getting cancer, but I would not be surprised if he was.

        <-- meat eating Buddhist.
        Heather and the hounds - Make a Fast Friend, Adopt a Greyhound!

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by fpsjosh01 View Post
          His type of cancer was operable, but the diet measures he took, according to butter believer*, was what did him in.

          I don't see a reason why it couldn't be true.
          Sure diet could have contributed, but foregoing medical intervention was probably mistake numero uno. Plenty of carbovores get cancer and medicine can save them, so to speak.
          I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by kennelmom View Post
            He was a practicing Buddhist for many years, so a veg*n diet would have made a lot of sense to him in a spiritual sense as well. I'm not sure if he was veg*n before getting cancer, but I would not be surprised if he was.

            <-- meat eating Buddhist.
            +1

            I have a few buddhist friends and am personally thinking about trying it myself. Sounds mighty spiritual.
            Blag: The FPSJosh01 Ego Experience
            Follow me on google+
            Superraw: the Autism Buster blag
            "Don't spread the word, spread the butter"

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by iniQuity View Post
              I read a different article saying he wanted to try alternative methods and suggested his cancer wasn't so severe at first and was treatable, and others saying he was one of those "want to die young" type of people, so maybe he didn't care to perish early. I'm sure a better diet would've helped, cancer cells love sugar, which is why fasting and low carb diets have been effective as preventive measures, and in cases of confirmed cancer, fasting can help "starve" the cells though it may not erradicate them completely. It also depends on the type of cancer, severity, etc etc (What I Learned from Cancer)

              I don't know much about Jobs, but I'm told he was more in charge of aesthetics at Apple, since my first inclination was to think "how could someone that drove technology be so against it when it came to his own treatment?" but please correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe he was more intimately involved in OS development and all of that.
              It seems that people who are very familiar with technology are also more familiar with its limitations, especially regarding interaction with the human body.

              Comment


              • #8
                It's always funny when Westerners execute an about face and in the process spit on their spiritual roots. It's one thing to compare and contrast, to fortify and hone, but entirely another to reject and attach, bastardizing both worlds in the process. /

                It never fails to amaze me how a man can be so strong in one field of understanding and at the same time so disgustingly oblivious to the fundamentals of human biology. Was he a weird eater? Did he shun fat? If true, it's a shame. /

                And yes, iniQuity is correct, Steve Jobs, in my understanding, was not much more than an expert at smiling. That empty American smile, as they call it, manifested in gadget form. He made it look good and made strong technologies accessible to an increasingly dull consumer base. Of course this is a genius of its own, but we should be clear on its nature.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by dado View Post
                  It's always funny when Westerners execute an about face and in the process spit on their spiritual roots. It's one thing to compare and contrast, to fortify and hone, but entirely another to reject and attach, bastardizing both worlds in the process. /

                  It never fails to amaze me how a man can be so strong in one field of understanding and at the same time so disgustingly oblivious to the fundamentals of human biology. Was he a weird eater? Did he shun fat? If true, it's a shame. /

                  And yes, iniQuity is correct, Steve Jobs, in my understanding, was not much more than an expert at smiling. That empty American smile, as they call it, manifested in gadget form. He made it look good and made strong technologies accessible to an increasingly dull consumer base. Of course this is a genius of its own, but we should be clear on its nature.
                  The topic of course is not on the technology, it was purely diet/cancer/health standpoint.

                  I hate apple. I hate the iPhone. The device itself is more sociopathic than he was. I was just wondering what you guys thought.
                  Blag: The FPSJosh01 Ego Experience
                  Follow me on google+
                  Superraw: the Autism Buster blag
                  "Don't spread the word, spread the butter"

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by iniQuity View Post
                    ... in cases of confirmed cancer, fasting can help "starve" the cells though it may not erradicate them completely. It also depends on the type of cancer, severity, etc etc (What I Learned from Cancer) ...
                    I take your point about the fasting part, but most of that article (and that site) does not make me happy. The article has a whole series of 'this can't be happening, I'm a vegetarian!' moments: skin cancer, low stomach acid, poor absorption, gallstones... Finally the writer concludes, "I came to see that it arose from toxicity issues dating to before I became a vegetarian" fifteen years earlier.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hilary View Post
                      I take your point about the fasting part, but most of that article (and that site) does not make me happy. The article has a whole series of 'this can't be happening, I'm a vegetarian!' moments: skin cancer, low stomach acid, poor absorption, gallstones... Finally the writer concludes, "I came to see that it arose from toxicity issues dating to before I became a vegetarian" fifteen years earlier.
                      Without a doubt, there are the points of vegetarianism that confuse me. HOWEVER, there's something to be said about someone who doesn't eat red meat, but also accepts that grains are terrible, and butter is a health food.

                      Take it into perspective.

                      My chiropractor thinks I'm nuts because I eat red meat. (I'll show him!) Yet, he still pushes butter/coconut oil and hates vegtable oils/grains. It's like a halfway primal thought process. Don't hate them, they're almost on the bandwagon.
                      Blag: The FPSJosh01 Ego Experience
                      Follow me on google+
                      Superraw: the Autism Buster blag
                      "Don't spread the word, spread the butter"

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hilary View Post
                        I take your point about the fasting part, but most of that article (and that site) does not make me happy. The article has a whole series of 'this can't be happening, I'm a vegetarian!' moments: skin cancer, low stomach acid, poor absorption, gallstones... Finally the writer concludes, "I came to see that it arose from toxicity issues dating to before I became a vegetarian" fifteen years earlier.
                        Without a doubt, there are the points of vegetarianism that confuse me. HOWEVER, there's something to be said about someone who doesn't eat red meat, but also accepts that grains are terrible, and butter is a health food.

                        Take it into perspective.

                        My chiropractor thinks I'm nuts because I eat red meat. (I'll show him!) Yet, he still pushes butter/coconut oil and hates vegtable oils/grains. It's like a halfway primal thought process. Don't hate them, they're almost on the bandwagon.
                        Blag: The FPSJosh01 Ego Experience
                        Follow me on google+
                        Superraw: the Autism Buster blag
                        "Don't spread the word, spread the butter"

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Wasn't he following the bill clinton vegan plan?

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Folks, I say this as someone who knew Steve personally. Can we please let a guy rest in peace? Discussing what he may or may not have eaten and what treatments he may or may not have had is irrelevant to any health matters we might have because every cancer is unique as is every body. Plus, there is so much conflicting "authoritative" information floating around the webs about him. Speculation and rumors piled on top of each other.

                            Rest in peace, Steve. You were a genius, but then you knew that.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                              Folks, I say this as someone who knew Steve personally. Can we please let a guy rest in peace? Discussing what he may or may not have eaten and what treatments he may or may not have had is irrelevant to any health matters we might have because every cancer is unique as is every body. Plus, there is so much conflicting "authoritative" information floating around the webs about him. Speculation and rumors piled on top of each other.

                              Rest in peace, Steve. You were a genius, but then you knew that.
                              I won't tell him if you won't.

                              I think we're mostly using his example, not you know, talking shit about the guy.
                              I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X