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    thanks for everything so far everyone.

    i have a new questions that is plaguing me.

    i run hard, do kettlebells and PLAY CRICKET so thats 5-6 out of 7 days im training and or playing.

    Cricket, how would i fuel for a day at cricket? meal wise?
    how would i go about hunger issues. i mean i am never hungry anymore, but i need more energy from food since kicking caffiene.

    i am strict paleo and also, want to keep leaning out so i avoid fruit and nuts. no grains legumes and dairy, and i even put down 85% organic dark chocolate because it had raw cane sugar in it...

    wow...
    anyways, can anyone help?

  • #2
    My simplest idea is to top up your cals by eating CO off the spoon a few times a day with meals.

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    • #3
      So are you actually feeling fatigued during these events or just worried that you are not eating enough? It is common to lose your appetite when you first start eating this way - I go in cycles of almost no appetite then suddenly I am hungry all the time!


      If you are feeling fatigued from under-eating you can try to add more fat in with your meals to bump up the calories or add in more carbs a few days a week to stimulate your appetite and stock your muscles up with glycogen.
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      • #4
        i think its a combo of both. I can only eat so much coconut oil lol...i snack on coconut oil and cacao mixed together and frozen when on the go.
        ill give you a sample of what i eat usually
        brekky: 4-6 eggs scrambled over medium, spinach, tomato and mushrooms sauteed
        lunch: big ass salad with mixed greens and the usual condiments (no nuts) and almost like marks big salad with grilled chicken breast, dab of olive oil
        dinner: any lean protein source with lots of veggies. dont want to much fat at night so i dont blunt GH.

        may have a serve of coconut milk with cinnamon some days.
        i love fruit but i tend to wanna have to much as i love it so much and same with nuts as i love them and they hinder leaning out more.

        if i run in the am (fasted) ill throw 100g sweet potato in my omlete, and if i trainin the everning, my greens shiuld be sufficient enough to replenish stores of glycogen. im running at 4:10mins per km which is about a 6:50 min/ per mile pace but then ramp up to race pace every 5 or 10mins for 2 minutes.

        cricket training days, i dont get home till almost 9pm and thats too late to eat so i usually just IF til brekky next morning.
        really stressing me out cause i feel like im drained and need more energy.
        and i have this thing about that i read where:
        meals: protein+fat and less than 10g carbs (keeps unwanted gfat gain)
        carbs and protein with less than 10g fat (again, unwanted fat gain minimized) TRUTH?

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        • #5
          Sounds like you need carbohydrate. There is no reason to fear easily digestible carbohydrates such as fruits and "safe" starches, especially since you're doing that much exercise. You've got the right idea about grains, legumes, and dairy, but you should definitely be having some fruit and potatoes, sweet potatoes, squash, etc. Nuts and chocolate can be problematic, but it's not because of the carbohydrates/sugars.

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          • #6
            but sugars from berries...i love blueberries ans strawberries. all others im not fussed over. When is it best to consume these delightful treats without the unwanted weight/fat gain and what to have it with to avoid spillage into liver?still trying to lean out too...double edge sword

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            • #7
              Welcome back!Wish you were here every moment a lot of fun

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              • #8
                Sounds like carbs would help you. I was massively fatigued last week and the only thing that helped was upping my fats and carbs. I added carbs through blueberries and macadamias. Sweet potato is probably a better option for someone as active as you though. Don't be scared of berries, they are great once in a while. Funnily I moved past a weightloss stall once I included more carbs again. It seems to go up and down for me!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Glamorama View Post
                  Sounds like carbs would help you. I was massively fatigued last week and the only thing that helped was upping my fats and carbs. I added carbs through blueberries and macadamias. Sweet potato is probably a better option for someone as active as you though. Don't be scared of berries, they are great once in a while. Funnily I moved past a weightloss stall once I included more carbs again. It seems to go up and down for me!
                  When is it best to eat them?post workout only?
                  I really love berries in coconut milk and cinnamon but it stalled fat loss. Still want performance but also leaning out

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by runner_79 View Post
                    When is it best to eat them?post workout only?
                    I really love berries in coconut milk and cinnamon but it stalled fat loss. Still want performance but also leaning out
                    Pre-workout is also good. You might want to lower your fat consumption as you increase carbohydrate intake. I would not recommend eating fruit with loads of fat if you're trying to lean out. Have a banana or two pre-workout and feel free to do the same afterward. 100-150 grams of carbohydrate is the recommended threshold for people trying to maintain weight; you are a VERY active athlete and could actually do well with 150-200 (possibly even more). You don't need to go out of your way to eat that much, but if you have a favorite fruit or starch, feel free to consume it without too much fat pre-workout and post-workout.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by runner_79 View Post
                      When is it best to eat them?post workout only?
                      I really love berries in coconut milk and cinnamon but it stalled fat loss. Still want performance but also leaning out
                      I'm not right on board with food and exercise times yet, I won't look into it until I'm at that point myself... Still about 10 kilos to go. But Tarek sounds like he knows the drill. And I agree about watching the fat if you are upping carbs, it's LeanGains-territory, isn't it? You're obviously at a point where it is about fine-tuning. I read someone here saying that white rice PWO was a great way of feeding the muscles.

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                      • #12
                        And other times just protein veggies and fat to fill the void?
                        So a good pre cricket training snack to help would be blueberries and cinnamon and?

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                        • #13
                          White rice is fine post I guess due to the germ/bran fully removed. Maybe 1/3 cup cooked with some protein

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                          • #14
                            Why not try carb cycling? Carb Refeeding and Weight Loss | Mark's Daily Apple

                            I'm trying that and so far its working great! My weight loss is already unstalled after one week.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by runner_79 View Post
                              And other times just protein veggies and fat to fill the void?
                              So a good pre cricket training snack to help would be blueberries and cinnamon and?
                              Yes.
                              Protein powder or greek yogurt.
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