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    I know there are tons of threads about cholesterol here, and I have to search and pore through them. And I will. But at the moment I am a little freaked out because I just got off the phone with my doctor, who proceeded to tell me that my cholesterol numbers came back, and they're way too high.

    Overall: 362 (she said this was way too high)
    Triglycerides: 36 (she said this was too low)
    HDL: 121 (she said this was too high)
    LDL: 233 (she said this was too high)

    She wanted to know if I'd fasted before the test (I had). So now she's talking about medication, etc., and for the next three months I'm to eat "lots of vegetables and lots of fiber" and "cut my salt" and "reduce fat."

    As an aside, I went primal mid-August, and I am now doing Whole 30. When my blood was taken, I had just started Whole 30 that week; previously, my dairy intake was rather high.

    I'm already half-convinced that I need to find another doctor, because this same practice last week just told me cheerfully that I should go on blood pressure medication to help control my Raynauds - even though my blood pressure is on the lower side of normal.

    I'm only 40. I sure as hell don't want to go on any serious medication.

    But I'm a little freaked because my cousin who's only 48 just got a stent -- lots of blockage, apparently, even though she is "very healthy" (whatever that means; I have no idea how she was eating, but based on how she was training to be a triathlete, I'm guessing it is a high-carb sort of plan).

    So for those of you who know far better than I, please tell me: do I have cause to be seriously concerned about my cholesterol numbers?

    Thanks in advance.
    F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

    **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

    **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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    Hmmm I would get a second opinion. I dont know how your Triglycerides could be too LOW, and your HDL could be too HIGH. I would also get a full lipid test to see what kind of LDL you have going on. The markers for heart disease are high triglycerides, low hdl, and high small particle ldl.. (from doing my own reading..including what Mark S says.)
    Primal since March 2011

    Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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    • #3
      Thanks, activia. I could barely get the info out of her when we spoke on the phone -- but she's sending me the actual results. Maybe there's more information on the lab work that she didn't tell me.
      F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

      **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

      **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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      • #4
        What does daily food intake look like for you?

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        • #5
          JackieKessler read Tim's post in the "heart attach risk" thread that was started tonight. He has even more detail..also the name of that specific test you need. Sounds like you need a new doc.

          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread41237.html

          Grok on!
          Primal since March 2011

          Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kurite View Post
            What does daily food intake look like for you?
            Right now, I'm following Whole 30. Before that, I'd been going a little overboard with dairy, fruit and nuts. I'd only been doing Whole 30 for 1 day before my blood was drawn.

            Saturday:
            B- 2 eggs scrambled in olive oil with garlic, onions, mushrooms and green bell peppers; 1/2 all-natural [minimally processed] chicken sausage with sundried tomatoes; black coffee; water
            L - 4 leftover homemade meatballs (beef/pork/veal blend); 1/2 c spaghetti squash; BAS; 1 med apple; water
            snack - oolong tea
            D - leftover homemade chicken soup; 1 clementine orange

            Sunday:
            B- Kale, bacon and onions sauteed with coconut milk and chicken broth; black coffee; water
            L- wild-caught albacore, BAS, 8 slivers of different pears (about 1 med pear total); water
            D- turkey, hard-boiled egg, bacon, avocado in mixed green salad with balsamic vinaigrette; hot tea, water

            Today:
            B- 2 eggs scrambled in coconut oil, with peppers, mushrooms, onions, garlic and 1 all-natural [minimally processed] chicken sausage with sundried tomatoes; black coffee; water
            L - 5 homemade meatballs [beef/pork/veal blend] over 1 cup of spaghetti squash; water
            snack - 1 med apple, 1 handful raw hazelnuts, 2 oz turkey
            D - 8 oz creamy macadamia shrimp (used coconut oil instead of butter), steamed asparagus, water; oolong tea
            F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

            **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

            **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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            • #7
              Originally posted by activia View Post
              JackieKessler read Tim's post in the "heart attach risk" thread that was started tonight. He has even more detail..also the name of that specific test you need. Sounds like you need a new doc.

              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread41237.html

              Grok on!
              Thanks -- will do so!
              F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

              **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

              **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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              • #8
                I'm no expert, but from my understanding you lipids are amazing. Get a second opinion, maybe from a cardiologist.
                Lifting Journal

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                • #9
                  An HDL of 121 almost makes you immune to heart problems. The only thing that might be a warning sign is that even though it's the "healthy" marker it's pretty high along with your LDL. This means little to nothing as far as heart health goes but it could point to some other internal imbalance (potentially). Considering how high your HDL is, I'm assuming you're a woman. Well statins wouldn't do a damned thing to fix any potentially related imbalances and as a woman the statins wouldn't do you a lick of good anyways (but you'd still be vulnerable to all of their many negative side effects). Unless your doctor is awesome in other areas, kick her to the curb.
                  "You can demonstrate the purpose and limits of human digestion with a simple experiment: eat a steak with some whole corn kernels, and see what comes out the other end. It won’t be the steak."
                  -J.Stanton

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Apex Predator View Post
                    I'm no expert, but from my understanding you lipids are amazing. Get a second opinion, maybe from a cardiologist.
                    Thanks for this. I'm convinced - will get a second opinion.
                    F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                    **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                    **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ProtoAlex View Post
                      An HDL of 121 almost makes you immune to heart problems. The only thing that might be a warning sign is that even though it's the "healthy" marker it's pretty high along with your LDL. This means little to nothing as far as heart health goes but it could point to some other internal imbalance (potentially). Considering how high your HDL is, I'm assuming you're a woman. Well statins wouldn't do a damned thing to fix any potentially related imbalances and as a woman the statins wouldn't do you a lick of good anyways (but you'd still be vulnerable to all of their many negative side effects). Unless your doctor is awesome in other areas, kick her to the curb.
                      Wow -- thanks for this! Yes, I'm a woman. And no, my doc isn't particularly awesome. Getting ready to do some kicking -- already have the name of another doc who is a DO rather than an MD and comes very highly recommended by a good friend.
                      F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                      **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                      **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                      • #12
                        Get a VAP test for particle size. Then if it comes back type 1 (light fluffy) and the doc is still hell bent on meds, see what your insurance will cover for a cardiac calcium scan (gold standard for cardiac risk). I have a total cholesterol of 300 and my trig are 101, HDL 66, VAP test says I am predominantly pattern A. Doctor still freaked out. Not willing to consider that my hypothroid condition (high tsh at time of test) affected the numbers. Coronary calcim scan score = 7 (less than 10% risk of heart attack in next 5 years). I can live with that. At the end of the day we agreed to disagree and I signed a form that I was not accepting her advice to take Lipitor.

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                          • #14
                            I would tell your Doc I would like to have a VAP test done to confirm these numbers before I consider medication. (so as to not be rude)

                            Then tell use the VAP results... I am sure you will be within normal limits.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Glockin Grok View Post
                              I would tell your Doc I would like to have a VAP test done to confirm these numbers before I consider medication. (so as to not be rude)

                              Then tell use the VAP results... I am sure you will be within normal limits.
                              Thanks -- will do this!
                              F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                              **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                              **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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