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  • November: No Nuts Paleo or Primal Month

    This is a continuation of the October Paleo or Primal No Nuts challenge!

    Commit to your version of the paleo/primal, decide what you are going to track, and blast off!

    My November Goals/Commitments:

    -Paleo diet with tubers & non-gluten grains on carb-up days
    -no nuts/nut butters on Paleo days
    -stick to UD2.0 - it is working wonders, even if it is hard as hell on depletion days
    -1 cheat meal a week during carb-up on UD (i.e. avoid Sat evening sugar binge)
    -limit dairy to home-made kefir and quark (i.e. stop dipping into plain yogurt!)
    -fruit consumption is allowed only on Sunday and Monday
    -150 min of cardio a week with 1 HIIT session and the rest being steady state

    I will track the following:

    November 1: +/-, cal, total carb, protein, excersise, where +/- indicate sticking to the commitments or not
    My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
    When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

  • #2
    Sweet. This is essentially what I'm doing with the carb refeeds. Depletion days with as many skipped meals as I can handle. No Nuts/Fruit/or yogurt (I might need to have yogurt a few times depending on the expiration date of it..since the fat content it will be the day after carb up day). 1 sprint day, 1 boot camp day (this would qualify as HIIT), 1 kickboxing day (also HIIT, + strength), 1 strength with body weight exercises. Walk everyday. 1 carb refuel day..this for me is going to be on thursdays which is my kickboxing day and I'm not considering it a cheat day..primal and using glucous as my carbs in the form of tubers and white rice and keeping <30g of fat on these days. 5-6 other days will be VLC <30g of carbs. I also am committing to get up at least every hour from my desk.

    Challenge me on daily burn!
    Fitness Challenges - Carb Refeed Experiment - DailyBurn
    Primal since March 2011

    Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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    • #3
      This is going to be really hard for me. Not sure I can commit...

      No real nuts allowed
      Allowed nut flours, nut butters, coconut in any form or shape, nut milk
      Fruit - limited to 2 portions max a day
      Cheese - limited to 2-3 ounces a day
      Friday Night and Saturday allowed to have glass of wine/liqueur and dark chocolate

      Now for the easy part...
      Exercise: Swimming once a week, 3 times a week toning, everyday 25 pushups, 2 minute plank, 25 pullups, climb stairs at work and at home, gym exercise 1-2 a week for 40 minutes

      I'm committed for November

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      • #4
        I'm curious, what's UD2.0 and UD?
        I created PaleoTrack - A Food Journal Designed for The Primal Blueprint

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        • #5
          It's one of Lyle McDonald's programs, Ultimate Diet 2.0 (basically cyclic carb refeed combined with a specific excersise plan for people who want to achieve sub-average body fat level (i.e. under 18% for women, under 12% for men), discussed at length here:

          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread32876.html
          My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
          When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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          • #6
            Thanks.
            I created PaleoTrack - A Food Journal Designed for The Primal Blueprint

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            • #7
              On we GO! Since my Ultimate Diet weeks run from Saturday to Saturday, I will include a few October days for reference & ease of tracking.

              Weigh in #2: 121 lbs, 17.5% BF
              --UD 2.0 WEEK 4 CARB UP --
              October 29: - NOT PALEO, 3450 cals, 690 g carbs, 112 g protein; Intesnity workout, strolling
              October 30: + 1700 cals, 190 g carbs, 150 g protein; Power workout, play
              October 31: + 16 hrs fast, 1630 cals, 108 g carbs, 140 g protein; 35 min jog + stroll
              --UD 2.0 WEEK 4 CARB DOWN--

              November 1: plan to have 900 cals with 43 g carbs and 135 g protein

              Despite avoiding all the candy, I ate extra fruit and a bowl of yogurt, which took me over the planned amount of food. My weight gain after this carb up is very high (5 lbs), must be the high amount from fat from cheese yesterday, so I plan on staying to 900 calories during the carb down this week, and instead of hoping for maintenance, hoping to limit the gain this week.
              My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
              When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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              • #8
                im in starting today. for this diet whats ur fat grams stand on both carb up and down weeks. Im trying to gain muscle only. im 5' 11" 164lbs at 10% BF. my workouts everyweek is thursday/friday heavy weights. im pretty active rest of week, with 2 HIITS and 1 Sprint, play golf 3 times a week carrying bag and i fast everyday at least 16hrs. currently eating about 300 to 400g of carbs a day on refeeds. gonna pick up the book soon also
                "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we often might win, by fearing to attempt." -- William Shakespeare

                my weight loss story...
                started @400+pounds
                CW: 191lbs 15%BF
                PB: 158lbs 10%BF 33in waist
                UD2(6 weeks): 168lbs 9%BF 31in waist
                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread39123.html

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                • #9
                  In my case, my fats are 30% or under on both carb-down and 15-20% and under on carb-up. My physiology is not adapted to consumming fat, and I cannot lose weight when I do Primal or Anabolic (i.es 60-70% fat), so I do Paleo instead. But that is my personal thinggie, and I am following Lyle's diet and workout plan as close as possible.
                  My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                  When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                  • #10
                    In my case, it's going to be no nut butters forever!

                    I did the no nuts October challenge and actually began mid-September for a full 6 weeks before I bought a jar of almond butter today. I had found that it was a real 'trigger' for me, and I overate it (a jar rarely lasted longer than 3 days). I hoped that a period of abstinence would give me more control. Alas, it was even worse.

                    So since almond butter is clearly a 'trigger' food for me, it's no longer in my house--ever.

                    On another forum, I read that those of us working at maintenance after a substantial weight loss need to find some NTTs (non-triggering treats). I'd hoped that almond butter would be one for me--but it's not.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Leida View Post
                      In my case, my fats are 30% or under on both carb-down and 15-20% and under on carb-up. My physiology is not adapted to consumming fat, and I cannot lose weight when I do Primal or Anabolic (i.es 60-70% fat), so I do Paleo instead. But that is my personal thinggie, and I am following Lyle's diet and workout plan as close as possible.
                      ok so about carb down weeks, do u still do the same workout routines? i guess i gotta get the book asap to understand carb ups and down weeks.
                      "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we often might win, by fearing to attempt." -- William Shakespeare

                      my weight loss story...
                      started @400+pounds
                      CW: 191lbs 15%BF
                      PB: 158lbs 10%BF 33in waist
                      UD2(6 weeks): 168lbs 9%BF 31in waist
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread39123.html

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                      • #12
                        Nuts have an almost hypnotic effect on me. If I eat one, I become very desperate for more, and my executive function walks off the job. I went most of October without them, and then all of a sudden I ate half a bag before recoiling in horror. Then the next day, almond butter. Then the next day, almond butter again! Enough!

                        I am throwing in my lot with you all. No nuts for me for November, except for coconut. Maybe never again. Instead, sardines.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Timothy View Post
                          Nuts have an almost hypnotic effect on me. If I eat one, I become very desperate for more, and my executive function walks off the job. I went most of October without them, and then all of a sudden I ate half a bag before recoiling in horror. Then the next day, almond butter. Then the next day, almond butter again! Enough!

                          I am throwing in my lot with you all. No nuts for me for November, except for coconut. Maybe never again. Instead, sardines.
                          I feel u man, except my problem was coconut butter. I would buy one jar and I would smash it in 7 days. Cept on refeed days. But I honestly didnt see too much weight gain from it. Still tho gonna stop with all the high fat intake and do moderate fat. Plus my ldl is at 191 too.
                          "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we often might win, by fearing to attempt." -- William Shakespeare

                          my weight loss story...
                          started @400+pounds
                          CW: 191lbs 15%BF
                          PB: 158lbs 10%BF 33in waist
                          UD2(6 weeks): 168lbs 9%BF 31in waist
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread39123.html

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                          • #14
                            (Hugs) I totally know what you mean! Once I dip into a jar of nut butter, I am a lost cause!!!

                            Chochbo, you do not need to do an Ultimate Diet, lol, unless you want to! It's just something I do for the next few weeks This challenge is simply to stick to Paleo or Primal with no nuts!

                            Weigh in #2: 121 lbs, 17.5% BF
                            --UD 2.0 WEEK 4 CARB UP --
                            October 29: - NOT PALEO, 3450 cals, 690 g carbs, 112 g protein; Intesnity workout, strolling
                            October 30: + 1700 cals, 190 g carbs, 150 g protein; Power workout, play
                            October 31: + 16 hrs fast, 1630 cals, 108 g carbs, 140 g protein; 35 min jog + stroll
                            --UD 2.0 WEEK 4 CARB DOWN--
                            November 1: + 17 hrs fast, 910 cals, 43 g carbs, 134 g protein; 30 min bike (25 min intervals, 30:30, L4, HR ~ 140 bpm) + stretch/walking, steam room

                            Today's plan: Depletion WO#1, Zumba, 920 cals with 35 g carbs and 134 g protein
                            My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                            When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by emmie View Post
                              In my case, it's going to be no nut butters forever!

                              I did the no nuts October challenge and actually began mid-September for a full 6 weeks before I bought a jar of almond butter today. I had found that it was a real 'trigger' for me, and I overate it (a jar rarely lasted longer than 3 days). I hoped that a period of abstinence would give me more control. Alas, it was even worse.

                              So since almond butter is clearly a 'trigger' food for me, it's no longer in my house--ever.

                              On another forum, I read that those of us working at maintenance after a substantial weight loss need to find some NTTs (non-triggering treats). I'd hoped that almond butter would be one for me--but it's not.
                              I feel your pain - last week I put two brand new jars of almond butter in the trash - as in, outside in a dumpster so that I couldn't retrieve it WHEN I changed my mind (not IF I changed my mind!). There was just no other way to keep myself from ingesting it at that point. I won't be buying it again for a long, long time.

                              I just got gutsy yesterday and bought some more coconut butter, which can be a heck of a trigger in itself, but since most of our bodies don't usually react to coconut negatively like they can to an overload of nuts, it's safer and I can deal with a little indulgence here and there - plus, I plan to use it in place of a dose of coconut oil that day if I do partake. I stuck it in the fridge so that it would require some work to get it to the creamy, heavenly, insanely wonderful state in which room temp keeps it! That will force me to check myself before I wreck myself.

                              No nut butter for me this month, needless to say!
                              Life is not a matter of having good cards, but of playing a poor hand well.

                              - Robert Louis Stevenson

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