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  • #16
    Originally posted by DigitalSurgeon View Post
    The leptin rx will help you get your testosterone better and E2 lower. It will not hurt at all. But ithink you need testing to see what is at root cause. Dhea, free and total testosterone vit d levels and big time usemof k2 resveratrol and turmeric. Lots can be done. What is the cause of the ED? Do you know? May need salivary cortisol done too.
    I think the OP is talking about eating disorder and it looks like you are talking about ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION? You are talking around each other. I have never heard of resveratrol and k2 for bulimia.

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    • #17
      YES! I mean ED as in eating disorder....good call meredithharb, I was kind of confused about what he meant

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      • #18
        Originally posted by al09 View Post
        Hello Everyone
        I think partially due to emotional stressors in my life, but I know the underlying cause of ED's are not exclusively emotional. I know there is a neurotransmitter issue in there too. I'm currently in therapy, and I've been taking Prozac for the last month (just upped to 20mg) for some situational depression, and to help with the bulimia. So far I've only noticed that my sleep has improved and I cry less, but it seems that the binge/purge cycle has only gotten worse. I want desperately to be free of this, it's so terrible for my body.

        Anyway, I'm wondering if a leptin reset would be beneficial in helping me to recover from the ED.
        If anyone has any insight on the leptin reset, or possible supplements that may be helpful, it would be appreciated. Thank you!
        AL09,
        1) I suggest getting yourself a blood glucose meter and test your blood sugar level when you feel depressed and I'll wager that your blood sugar is low (Hypoglycemic). Too many doctors want to prescribe anti-depressant drugs when there is an underlying cause that needs correction with diet.
        Link between bulimia & hypoglycemia Low glucose in the blood makes you binge then the resulting spike in blood sugar makes you purge.

        2) I suggest going on the Dr. Kruse Diet for 3 months to see if it helps. I also think you should try to wean yourself of mental drugs ASAP, they are addictive and people I know have become mental cases from taking them.. His diet is helping a lot of people on this board, including myself.

        He does discuss Bulimia in 3 of his blogs, and says this:
        If the person was previously seriously serotonin depleted this could cause initial weight gain while dieting, severe cravings, bingeing, bulimia, and severe PMS..... Leaky gut is also a feature of many psychiatric diseases as well. Anorexia and bulimia come to mind. Alzheimer’s and schizophrenia are some others. The data is pointing to autism also being correlated with a leaky gut....
        Search his Blog for more.

        You should also be taking 1,000 IU Daily of Vitamin D3 oil based geltabs. Here is why: He correctly cites Mental Illness of ALL TYPES.
        Vitamin D optimization thoughts | Jack Kruse
        Also here:
        Epidemic of Vitamin D deficiency sweeping the world

        See this link for an introduction to Leptin & Index to Dr. Kruse links:
        http://tinyurl.com/Dr-Kruse-References

        Hope this helps, keep us posted,
        Grizz
        Last edited by Grizz; 11-02-2011, 11:22 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Grizz View Post
          2) I suggest going on the Dr. Kruse Diet for 3 months to see if it helps. I also think you should try to wean yourself of mental drugs ASAP, they are addictive and people I know have become mental cases from taking them.. His diet is helping a lot of people on this board, including myself.

          He does discuss Bulimia in 3 of his blogs, and says this:

          Search his Blog for more.

          You should also be taking 1,000 IU Daily of Vitamin D3 oil based geltabs. Here is why: He correctly cites Mental Illness of ALL TYPES.
          Vitamin D optimization thoughts | Jack Kruse
          Also here:
          Epidemic of Vitamin D deficiency sweeping the world

          See this link for an introduction to Leptin & Index to Dr. Kruse links:
          http://tinyurl.com/Dr-Kruse-References

          Hope this helps, keep us posted,
          Grizz
          The leptin reset IS NOT a good idea for someone recovering from an eating disorder.

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          • #20
            The leptin reset did nothing for my bulimia (except gave me a slight distraction for 2-3 days). But then I tried everything doctor and medicine wise. The only thing that finally helped me was seeing a hypnotherapist weekly and doing a lot of healing/visual exercises. If you want more information please PM me.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by al09 View Post
              I've been reading another thread that talks about using 5-HTP and amino acids in ED recovery....I guess it's based on the book the Diet Cure. I haven't read it yet, but does anyone have any info/experience with this method?
              Yes I tried this too, following the book. It helped but there are a lot of supplements and it is almost obsessive how you take them. Basically certain ones every few hours. IMO, it was not healthy for me to worry about those supplements... it was just like another b/p obsession. I do still take 5-htp occasionally, but The Diet Cure didn't cure me because I couldn't keep up with all the supplements. I'm sure it would be easier if someone dished them out for me and maybe it works, but I couldn't do it.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by NDF View Post
                The leptin reset IS NOT a good idea for someone recovering from an eating disorder.
                Cosigned. I doubt any strict protocol of that nature is such a good idea from someone recovering from an ED. The word orthorexia gets thrown around here a a joke sometimes, but it is real and can be serious.

                Also, congrats and best wishes in your recovery! It can be a bumpy road, but in the end a worthwhile one.
                No disease that can be treated by diet should be treated with any other means.
                -Maimonodies

                The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea.

                Babes with BBQ

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                • #23
                  omg GET AWAY FROM Dr Kruse's website if you have an eating disorder....i repeat....LEPTIN RX IS NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR SOMEONE WITH AN EATING DISORDER. NDF beat me to it, listen to her

                  I have never personally suffered from bulimia, i have anorexia nervosa. They are very different diseases, i think one is inborn and one is developed(through your moms passing, my condolences). you can check out my blog and read through it i have touched on bulimia in the past trying to offer what i do know. what you wont find on my blog is food advice, meal plans or anything 'food' related. food isnt your problem, really. the problem is in youre thinking, and filling gaps that should be occupied elsewhere.

                  if i had to offer you some steps...

                  1. get a lot of sleep, like a lot as much as you can and stay in bed longer than you feel like

                  2. lose your relationship with food. do not have one, at all. you can like/enjoy food, but do not have emotional relationships with it. it is what it is.

                  3. eat liver, and as much bone marrow as you can stomach. same with eggs(soy free ones...)

                  4. a high protein breakfast WILL assist you in keeping your brain off food. so, chock down some tuna/eggs/burgers when you wake up.do not eat fake food, no powders and shakes and shit

                  5. do not save food for anything. it seems bulimics like to go along(thinking about food all day) and 'save' food for something...like preoccupying loneliness/socialness etc with food at certain times. then youre stuck in a repetitive pattern that your almost comfortable with, you expect yourself to think and act a certain way and you accept that. that is not okay. you have to change that thinking. NO MORE future tripping- you have to force yourself to live right now, not 5 hours from now or even 5 mins from now


                  stop working out... if your having these bulimia episodes your energy balance is way outta whack. you cannot fix that when working out. you either want recovery or you dont, it IS that simple. its not like you can never work out again, but while your mentally disturbed with such a disease, you HAVE TO ACCEPT exercise is not your best bet at success. get a job, get a hobby, and as much as your bulimia mind doesn't want to SURROUND YOURSELF WITH PEOPLE for as many hours of the day as you can handle it, then some more to be uncomfortable. this is hard, and it forces you to learn to live LIFE and not live inside your own head. go to church, go to a park, go to the mall, join a club, get hobbies, have sex whatever it is...BE SOCIAL and part of society.


                  and last...you gotta understand 'it is what it is'....food is what it is, bulimia is what it is, recovery is what it is....accept it. if you havent accepted recovering then you wont be able to do the things you need to successfully. that means accepting changing even if you dont want to. i sure as hell did not wanna put on 45 lbs when i weighed 80
                  Get on my Level
                  http://malpaz.wordpress.com/

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                  • #24
                    to add.... you need to stop looking for the cure too, another downfall to a gazillion ED sufferers. there is no magic supplement, there is no curing vitamin/pharma drug. stop thinking like that. you need to develop the confidence to recover yourself.

                    you can do it. i did it. its hard as f*ck.

                    you will NEVER EVER EVER in your life experience something as traumatizing and hard as recovery, and you need to accept that. dont keep searching for the magic, you have it in you
                    Get on my Level
                    http://malpaz.wordpress.com/

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                    • #25
                      NO, NO, NO!

                      (Also big no to any sort of Whole30 or carb refeed or any other tangent people here go off into.)
                      Last edited by TigerLily; 11-03-2011, 10:20 AM.
                      "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TigerLily View Post
                        No, no, no!
                        Ack!
                        to me?
                        Get on my Level
                        http://malpaz.wordpress.com/

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                        • #27
                          I'm pretty sure she meant "no" to adding possible orthorexia to bulimia by trying to follow a strict and regimented eating plan of any kind.
                          Today I will: Eat food, not poison. Plan for success, not settle for failure. Live my real life, not a virtual one. Move and grow, not sit and die.

                          My Primal Journal

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                          • #28
                            nOOOO, Mal.
                            "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                            • #29
                              +a million to everything Mal said!
                              Depression Lies

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                              • #30
                                Wow, thanks everyone for the great feedback.

                                Grizz- THe blood glucose meter is an interesting idea, and thanks for the links. I'll be sure to check those out.

                                June- I can see what you mean about the supps becoming an obsession on their own. I think if I try this protocol that's something to be aware of. I don't want to replace obsessive behaviors, I want to get rid of them!

                                Mal- Thanks for your input. I've actually checked out your blog a lot, and I think you make a lot of very good points. I'm not sure if I agree with your approach to recovery 100%, but I can see how it worked for you and others. I do agree that following a strict eating plan such at the Leptin Reset or the Whole 30 can be detrimental, and I also agree with NDF on that. I've started Whole 30's before just to fail 3 days later and binge like crazy, so, yea, I know enough not to do that, and I'm kind of gotten over the whole Leptin reset thing though. I am still interested in the DIet Cure just because I'm currently on Prozac and I'd like to try something more "natural". I can see why you'd be against it. I'm not really searching for a magic pill. I know it's going to take more than that. I'm currently in therapy and trying to change my thinking patterns/relationship with food. I'm just curious if the Diet Cure protocol will help take the edge off while I'm trying to make these changes during a stressful period (aka grad school). Thanks for your encouragement, and I appreciate your feedback

                                I've started supplementing with D3, taking about 4000 IU/day....going to start titrating off the Prozac next week. I don't want to be on meds like that. I'm also currently eating primal, no grains or sugar, and I have been for about a year. I definitely feel better when I'm off all that junk in a million ways!

                                Thanks again for the input everyone, I welcome any advice I can get!

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