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    So, after going primal over a year ago, we cut out milk for my 2.5yo son. We wanted to avoid growth hormones, etc. He was 1.5 then. We started giving him almond milk. Usually twice a day. A few months back I read about the calcium supplements in this stuff and how it's really not even useable by the body, then the omega 6 from the almonds, so I switched to cocunut milk, the carton kind. Only 10% of the RDV calcium, and then fat. Other than that there's not much in it. I'm at the grocery store today, and I had the thought, "Why am I giving this to my kids?" Really, there is no reason at this point. What I have been doing is giving him a chunk of cheese in the morning and evening, thinking this will take care of the calcium requirements (we also eat alot of leafy greens too). From all of this, I ask a few questions. Do any of you give your kids milk? Dairy, almond, coconut? If not, how do you ensure they are getting enough calcium? Is it necessary to give kids milk at all? Will a healthy primal diet take care of all their needs, including calcium?

  • #2
    milk is good for them to grow strong

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    • #3
      Is it really though? Or is it more conventional wisdom?

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      • #4
        Human milk would be fine. But how often did man crawl under animals to suck on their boobs? Hopefully not too often.
        Nutritionally, vegetables and meats with fats are a complete diet. Greens contain plenty of calcium, as do fish bones (which come pre-cooked in the can and are easy to eat). I eat no dairy and never have any problem maxing out my calcium requirements and then some. But the coconut milk (if it's real, like aroy-d and not the "SO Delicious" or similar brand of white water) is a great source of raw calories from fat and is very anti-inflammatory, so there's no reason to stop offering it to your family.
        Crohn's, doing SCD

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        • #5
          When my daughter weaned at 2.5 years old I decided to not have her drink cow's milk.I rotated between almond and hemp milk (usually store bought although I have made my own). When she was about 3.5 she decided that she didn't like ANY alternative milks and started asking for cow's milk that she had tried on occasion. Our co-op carries an all organic, non homoginized, vat pastuerized at low temp whole milk that we now buy her. It has a cream plug at the top which she LOVES. She also loves cottage cheese by the same brand as the milk and also pastured butter and organic raw cheeses. I too question if the milk is necessary but for now she has two small cups a day with no sign of allergies whatsoever. If she started showing any signs of allergic reaction or even behavioral problems I would cut it out.
          Jaime, wife to Phaedrus and primal mama to A (4) and X (1).

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          • #6
            I do think that kids over the age of two can get all the calcium they need from meat and leafy greens. That said, sometimes my kids just want milk. Like, they practically beg for it in the grocery store. I buy it because they are telling me they need it. I probably buy a 1/2 gallon every couple of months. They never finish it. We do organic whole milk and sometimes I'll even let them drink some half-n-half. They LOVE that. We also use pastured butter and they have greek yogurt in a smoothie a couple of times a week.

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            • #7
              Get a couple of goats. Fresh raw goat milk. Perfect!

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              • #8
                See if you can find a source of raw cow or goat milk. I do goat milk myself. Closest thing to human milk without being human. RAw milk's really good for you too.
                Where Can I Find Real (Raw) Milk?

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                • #9
                  If it doesn't come from a mammal, it is juice, not milk. Please fix that firmly in your head. Almond juice. Coconut juice. Advertisers know full well how powerful the word "milk" is, and people are falling for it in droves. There is no sense even comparing milk to nut/seed/legume juice.
                  You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                  • #10
                    My 1 year old is still breastfed but I have tried giving her cows milk on two occasions. The first was ordinary milk from the store and she reacted badly. A couple of months later (yesterday in fact) I tried her on local milk that hadn't been homogenised (raw milk is illegal here). She has't reacted to it but at the same time isn't really interested in drinking it and picks her water cup over her milk cup each time. I probably won't keep giving it to her. She gets more than enough calcium from her diet. She does love coconut milk though and will happily drink an entire cup of that. She also likes it set with gelatin as a kind of pudding. I don't give this to her as a calcium source though

                    My 6 year old follows a SAD and drinks milk all the time. She declared the local milk I bought yesterday to be the best milk she had ever tasted
                    Became Primal August 2011

                    SW - 84kg / 185lb
                    CW - 60kg / 132lb
                    GW - 60kg / 132lb

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Grumpy Caveman View Post
                      If it doesn't come from a mammal, it is juice, not milk. Please fix that firmly in your head. Almond juice. Coconut juice. Advertisers know full well how powerful the word "milk" is, and people are falling for it in droves. There is no sense even comparing milk to nut/seed/legume juice.
                      I totally agree and I'm aware. That's what I was getting at. I was having them drink it for the calcium, until I read that the calcium carbonate was a joke. So, that left me at, what's the point? Either no milk or real milk. And I like the comments so far. Seems like some want their kids to have milk, and others don't.

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                      • #12
                        I have two daughters, one who drinks milk like there's no tomorrow and the other who goes through love-hate phases with it. I agree with the above poster who said she feels like her kids are telling her that their bodies need it. My daughter who craves it seems to do very well on it. My other daughter drinks it up a to a point, and then she naturally backs off if she hits her threshhold. i let them decide if they want it or not and how much they want.

                        But we do raw, organic milk from a local farmer. Aside from this they both get raw milk yogurt, and raw milk cheese regularly. Plus a primal diet.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dave RN View Post
                          See if you can find a source of raw cow or goat milk. I do goat milk myself. Closest thing to human milk without being human. RAw milk's really good for you too.
                          Where Can I Find Real (Raw) Milk?
                          +1 to this:-)
                          Free your mind, and your Grok will follow!

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                          • #14
                            I can't recommend raw dairy enough. There is some awesome stuff out there, especially if you make friends with your local farmers! If there are state laws regarding "pet consumption only" on raw dairy, try to recall a time when you ever called your kids "monkey" (LOL)

                            also I like to think of Greek yogurt as a good option. My 3yo loves it.
                            --Trish (Bork)
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                            • #15
                              Sounds like alot of people give their kids milk. My question is why? Is it necessary for optimal growth? Is their research based evidence out there that says we need it? I personally have that nagging thought that my kids need it for growth, but then I try to think like I have with alot of primal blueprint topics, and it doesn't make sense. I've read Mark's take on it in regard to adults. If you want to, and it doesn't affect you negatively, then go for it. But what about kids?

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