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    My husband and I went primal about 2 months ago and up until last week we were doing well eating bacon and eggs for breakfast to replace the cereal we were eating before. However, in the last 2 weeks my husband has been experiencing a very upset stomach following breakfast, as in having to go to the bathroom 4 times! On the days he has a smoothie (whey protein powder, full fat milk, full fat yoghurt, berries) he doesn't have this issue.

    For breakfast, he was eating 4 fried eggs and a little less than 1 rasher of bacon each day. For lunch he would often have a boiled egg or two but they wouldn't cause him any problems.

    Yesterday he had no eggs and instead had bacon, smoked salmon and half an avocado - no problem.

    Today he had no eggs, had bacon, smoked salmon and cottage cheese - problem resurfaced.

    Initially we thought it was an egg intolerance/allergy, but even without the egg he had an issue this morning, so I am wondering if it is something to do with balancing carbohydrate, protein and fat intake? As in, there is a nice balance of those three things in a smoothie or in the bacon/salmon/avocado breakfast, but not the eggs and bacon and bacon/salmon/cheese breakfasts.

    It also seems strange that for 6 weeks he wasn't having a problem, and then now all of sudden he is.

    Has anyone else had similar issues? He is talking about going back to eating cereal which we'd obviously like to avoid!!!

  • #2
    I haven't had similar issues myself, but more balance sounds good.

    4 fried eggs + rasher of bacon, followed by a few boiled eggs at lunch looks to have no source of carbs (and fibre)
    I'd expect you'd both do better with something alongside the eggs/meat, possibly a couple servings of vegetables or fruit with breakfast? Make it a more varied meal... I've never been a huge "breakfast foods" fan, perhaps think of it as brunch if it helps?
    Last edited by Fury; 10-11-2011, 05:31 PM.

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    • #3
      I had a similar problem, I found it was the cottage cheese with me. I cut that out and everything went back to normal.

      I also found a probiotic supplement very helpful.

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      • #4
        Danaa, perhaps your husband might try skipping breakfast entirely, and just having a larger lunch? I also get an upset stomach and digestive issues if I eat breakfast. If your husband has been eating primal for two months, skipping breakfast shouldn't be much of a hardship, although it might feel funny at first.

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        • #5
          Re: the eggs for lunch, I should have made it clearer, he was having a few eggs with his big ass salad or big ass leftovers (vegies and meat) lunch, and they didn't make him feel sick, but the breakfast ones did.

          I will see what he says about not eating, it has to be better than feeling sick. Timothy, have you always felt like that when you eat breakfast or only since going primal?
          Last edited by danaa; 10-11-2011, 06:01 PM.

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          • #6
            x2 on skipping breakfast. I was just about doing one meal a day for awhile and it works fine. Now I have a bigger lunch, still almost no breakfast. A small can of coconut milk in my coffee to start the morning = 370 calories, but it's all just fat.
            Crohn's, doing SCD

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            • #7
              Could be the bacon, weirder things have happened.
              "You can demonstrate the purpose and limits of human digestion with a simple experiment: eat a steak with some whole corn kernels, and see what comes out the other end. It won’t be the steak."
              -J.Stanton

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              • #8
                Re:

                These diets were examined every four years with food frequency questionnaires put to the volunteers. For a high protein low fat food diet, it is important to familiarize yourself with foods you should eat and foods you should stay away from.

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                • #9
                  To me it looks like the avocado and berries - both sources of carb, very high in fiber - helped. So stick with that and see.

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                  • #10
                    Is he drinking coffee as well? Depending on what you put in your system with coffee, it acts as a natural laxative. With no fiber in the breakfast, I could see the effect being intensified and surfacing much quicker.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by danaa View Post
                        I will see what he says about not eating, it has to be better than feeling sick. Timothy, have you always felt like that when you eat breakfast or only since going primal?
                        My pre-primal life of obesity and health problems is already a bit of a haze, but I don't think I was ever really into breakfast. I did used to get killer migraines like clockwork if I didn't eat by noon. I haven't had one of those since going primal and often fast for 20 hours, sometimes longer. Maybe skipping breakfast wouldn't suit your husband, but it might be worth a try.

                        If you'd like to read more about breakfast and why it might be skippable, I highly recommend these articles:

                        The Breakfast Myth, Part 1: How Did Breakfast Become Snacks And Dessert? - GNOLLS.ORG
                        The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast - GNOLLS.ORG

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                        • #13
                          Has he ever had gallbladder problems? It sounds like his gallbladder may be working overtime trying to process the fat in the bacon (which would explain the problem going away after removing the bacon). 4 eggs may seem a bit much, but eggs have always gotten a bad rap, haven't they? I usually go for 2 poached eggs every morning and a cup of oat bran with a tbsp of almond butter stirred in. I have known coffee to have a laxative effect in some folks, although it's never had that effect on me.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Timothy View Post
                            My pre-primal life of obesity and health problems is already a bit of a haze, but I don't think I was ever really into breakfast. I did used to get killer migraines like clockwork if I didn't eat by noon. I haven't had one of those since going primal and often fast for 20 hours, sometimes longer. Maybe skipping breakfast wouldn't suit your husband, but it might be worth a try.

                            If you'd like to read more about breakfast and why it might be skippable, I highly recommend these articles:

                            The Breakfast Myth, Part 1: How Did Breakfast Become Snacks And Dessert? - GNOLLS.ORG
                            The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast - GNOLLS.ORG
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pacificBeef View Post
                              holy jiggabaheeza those links are awesome
                              Glad you liked them! That whole site is pretty awesome. His book is also a great read.

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