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    I'd like to know if anyone here, before adopting the PB, was eating PB-style but still incorporated wheat at least semi-regularly. That is to say, along with bread and pasta, you ate plenty of fresh, organic vegetables, some fruit, plus clean sources of meat and did not shy away from saturated fats, but did avoid processed seed oils, and did move around plenty and got lots of sleep. Basically, did anyone try to live a couple hundred years in the past as opposed to 20,000?
    You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

  • #2
    Yeah, more or less. I ran a lot but my diet was essentially Primal save for the daily Kashi bar, and a personal brick-oven pizza twice a month. That was the final tweak in my weight loss efforts before going Primal to trim calories as much as possible.

    I was low-ish fat too, unfortunately.

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    • #3
      before going primal i ate pretty clean during the week...all meat and veggies, with a PWO shake that had some oatmeal in it. on the weekends i would eat like shit...not just primal shit, but shit shit. the meat was always conventional (still is), and the veggies weren't always organic. i didn't shy away from saturated fat, but i didn't have as much as i do now. moving and sleeping, and playing actually, were the same as they are for me now...maybe a little more cardio than i do now. i didn't gain, but i didn't lose any extra either. i was lifting heavy and doing hiit a lot, so i figured i earned those cookies, ice cream and cookies on the weekends.
      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60178.html

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      • #4
        Diana: do you feel that eliminating grains was the lynchpin that allowed you to lose so much weight?

        primalrob: How much weight have you lost on the PB, and are you where you want to be?
        You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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        • #5
          Before primal I was afraid of fat. Once I read about avocados somehow being healthy, it snowballed. I read deeply into many woo-woo diets, and was halfway convinced to try calorie restriction with optimal nutrition, and that somehow eventually landed me here. But I was eating hippie bread snacks the whole way.
          Crohn's, doing SCD

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          • #6
            I was gluten free but not grain free, and I was already into the local/organic food movement and living a pretty active lifestyle, so I guess I might count in that category. I ate gluten-free baked goods, mostly ones I made myself.
            “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Grumpy Caveman View Post
              I'd like to know if anyone here, before adopting the PB, was eating PB-style but still incorporated wheat at least semi-regularly. That is to say, along with bread and pasta, you ate plenty of fresh, organic vegetables, some fruit, plus clean sources of meat and did not shy away from saturated fats, but did avoid processed seed oils, and did move around plenty and got lots of sleep. Basically, did anyone try to live a couple hundred years in the past as opposed to 20,000?
              yes and i would never go back to it! That bread and pasta packed 5 extra lbs of flub on me that i could never get rid of. I would say i was eating wheat more than semi-regularly, it was at least once daily (homemade blueberry waffles for breakfast) and often more (pasta for dinner, sandwich for lunch). Gah i feel all bloaty just thinking about it.

              Why are you asking?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Grumpy Caveman View Post
                primalrob: How much weight have you lost on the PB, and are you where you want to be?
                i lost about 15-20 lbs from going primal, but that's not really where my success lies. i lost 100lbs with weight watchers a few years ago, but was still jiggly and out of shape. i lost a little more eating and exercising the way i mentioned pre-primal while i was building my strength back up, but i didn't really feel accomplished until i went primal. that's when i really started losing the fat and got better at everything. i'm not quite where i want to be--i keep moving the goal posts--but i've easily reached the weight and body fat goals i set for myself when i decided to stop being a lazy fat ass. i think i wouldn't mind being a little lighter, but i actually have no clue how much i weigh, just guessing it, and now i'm sort of working not very hard to reach that low body fat percentage (i'll really start going after it if being primal somehow gets rid of some unwanted body hair and i get comfortable going shirtless).
                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60178.html

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                • #9
                  I was gluten free, nightshade free, and cooking from scratch - mostly organic. Meat quality was high, but not solely grass fed -it was grass fed, grain finished. Fish was both wild caught and farm raised. I was eating whole grains - oatmeal, buckwheat, quinoa, brown rice. I lost like 40 lbsw when I dropped nightshades, but gained some back over Holidays (X-mas cookies, parties, etc). Since primal on Jan 3rd, I've lost like 75 lbs. I've avoided franken foods, hydrogenated fats and HFCS for >4yrs now.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Grumpy Caveman View Post
                    Diana: do you feel that eliminating grains was the lynchpin that allowed you to lose so much weight?
                    Absolutely. Not in that grains made me fat, but more along the lines of grains were keeping me from getting healthy... if that makes any sense. I got fat because I ate, and ate, and ate. Running and dieting got rid of a lot of that fat, but it was hard to lose. After ditching the grains my body seemed to let go of it easier.

                    Now, with my reduction (and now practical elimination) of exercise due to my work & school schedule, my body has seemed to level out at a higher weight than when I was exercising, even on a Primal diet with minimal indulgences. I know that being Primal I will not gain back all of the weight I lost (which is a huge relief) and that it's OK to lay off the exercise and just keep up with life for a while. When I'm ready to resume working out and training hard the extra fluff should come off fairly easily.

                    FWIW, I am eating more carbs now than I had been, with no real change in weight. So it's not really a "low carb" thing as it is avoiding garbage food in general.

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                    • #11
                      I kind of did. I ate oatmeal for breakfast, whole grain bread turkey sandwiches for lunch and usually chicken or ground turkey meals for dinner with a starch. I didn't eat read meat aside from hamburgers once a week or so. I have never been scared of too much fat and kept it around 25-30% and wasn't scared of butter, eggs or olive oil. I did eat too many sweets. Sometimes did good with veggies, sometimes not. I also did alot of cardio and trained for triathlons.

                      I started primal about 3 months ago and ditching grains has been great. I stopped doing alot of cardio because of foot issues and I needed a way to lose all of the weight I gained from not running. I am still exercising most days but nothing too chronic and certainly nothing like I was doing.

                      My body has changed drastically and I couldn't be more thrilled. Weight lose is going slow, but it is going. I see most differences in the mirror and not the scale for now. Even when I was training for my Tri's and half marathons I could never lose that extra flub.
                      Pre-Primal SW: 161
                      CW- 150
                      Goal 120ish

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                      • #12
                        I ate a Weston A Price style diet for quite a while before I was primal. Plenty of fats, soaked grains, veggies, and some fruits. No weight loss at all for me. At the time my goal was more energy, but it didn't really work for that too well either. I think adding more fat helped some with stabilizing blood sugar and mental clarity. But there is no doubt that the combination of higher fat, no grains, and no nightshades made the weight fall off and the inflammation drop waaaay down for me.
                        Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                        http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                        • #13
                          I ate a ton of grains- oatmeal, breads, I never met a biscuit I didn't like. I also had horrendous headaches, constant fatigue, etc. Never made the connection until I stopped eating so much/any wheat. I also ate everything "low fat" I haven't lost any weight on PB but I am just getting over the happiness of eating avocados and i don't work out like I should...
                          Have high hopes that journaling can keep me on track: www.southerndink.com If you are on twitter hit me up so we can keep each other motivated: http://twitter.com/SouthernDink

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                          • #14
                            I remember many years ago when I moved out of my parents house, my sister remarked on my weight loss and thought I was not preparing meals for myself. I was, and I put it down to:
                            Not buying bread
                            Not bothering to make gravy or sauces
                            Definitely not buying anything low/reduced fat
                            Skipping lunch occasionally through not being hungry
                            My work at the time had me lifting very heavy things in short bursts

                            I did drink a lot of beer though and didn't move much.

                            Then I got a girlfriend who convinced me that:
                            Bread (full grain) is good for you
                            Fat is bad for you
                            Flour thickened gravies and sauces are delicious
                            It takes a special kind of stupid to forget to eat

                            It's taken me 20 years and MDA to put it all together, but yeah.

                            :-)
                            Live. Grow. Flourish.

                            My Journal/story is at http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread38948.html

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Owly View Post
                              I was gluten free but not grain free, and I was already into the local/organic food movement and living a pretty active lifestyle, so I guess I might count in that category. I ate gluten-free baked goods, mostly ones I made myself.
                              This was me pretty much... I've been cooking w/Coconut Oil since 2006... I've never been fond of eating lots of animal fat w/meat (its something that's just not appealing to me even though it tastes good) I've had to learn how to do that... and I've gotten to the point I like to eat a good ribeye and pork tenderloin w/the fat on... still not keen on chicken, or turkey.. Though I've always been able to eat lamb w/the fat no problem... weird...
                              The most depraved type of human being is the man without a purpose. ~ Ayn Rand
                              What's your purpose? Mine is Optimal Health.

                              Converted to PB November 2010
                              SW 190lb
                              Leptin Reset Redux (1Sep 2011) SW 170lbs
                              25 Sep 2011 160lbs
                              1 Dec 2011 158lbs!
                              GW ~135lbs
                              5'3"
                              Mother of 2, and wife to a kick ass husband...trying to contain chaos and havoc on a daily basis

                              My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread40609.html

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