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    But I felt it amusing fodder as I sit here nursing a post-pizza hangover. I haven't had wheat in three months now, so I figured, ah, it's my 20% and the kids have been begging for pizza and my husband has been on business trips for the last two months and will be gone for another two...

    "Going Gluten Free"

    Gluten Intolerance, Sensitivity, & Gluten-Free Diets

    Don't bother giving me recipes for 'primal' pizza. They've all royally bombed, lol.

    Agh, the punishment. Never again!

  • #2
    There is no substitute for the beauty that is pizza. The tooth of the crust, the smell the oven imparts. Truly an amazing food.

    Too bad it makes me explode. C'est la vie. I'll eat foie gras instead.
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    • #3
      Doesn't this bother you? Three months ago you could probably have eaten that same pizza with no ill effects. Now you have basically created a gluten intolerance where there wasn't one before.

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      • #4
        Created, or exposed?
        My Fitday public journal.
        Me vs. Russian Boar, hunt is on Aug. 20th. WHAT'S MORE PRIMAL THAN THAT?!
        Recently survived Warrior Dash, New England.
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        • #5
          Perhaps being sensitive to toxic things isn't a bad idea. I mean, if you stay drunk all the time, a bottle of jack daniels makes a fine breakfast. Go a month sober and that nice bottle suddenly leaves you blacked out in a puddle of vomit with no clothes on asking people what you did all night.
          Crohn's, doing SCD

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          • #6
            How sensationalist can you get? Comparing eating some pizza to drinking a bottle of jack daniels. Come on now. From what I have read on this forum if you stop eating grains for an extended period of time you will probably get sick when you eat them. Most of you somehow rationalize that grains always made you feel bad you were just used to it...and obviously that isn't true. A whole lot of people eat grains every day and feel great...I bet many of the people here were like that before they started with eating primal. I personally think that people should embrace the 80/20 rule, eating grains a couple times a week at least, to avoid these problems.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by davem View Post
              Created, or exposed?
              Created. I feel fantastic after eating a sandwich on white bread with a side of veggies and bananas. I bet if I stopped eating grains for a few months and tried to eat the same thing I would feel horrible. That doesn't mean that I don't feel fantastic now when my body is used to eating grains though.

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              • #8
                Derp.

                Check out scholar.google.com and come back after you do some reading. (Pubmed would be better if you have an account, but that's not common.)

                Grains are a known inflammatory agent, with celiac only recently coming to light and more data being added to the body of knowledge daily. Most people don't know that it doesn't work for their system. Hell, I didn't until I restricted my diet and took a stepped approach to reintroducing them to my eating, and measuring the results. Anyone can do that, and it will put them in a much better place than where a dietician would have them. At the end of the day, you may not believe it, but the evidence paints a different picture.

                One point of view is correct, the one with the empirical data.
                My Fitday public journal.
                Me vs. Russian Boar, hunt is on Aug. 20th. WHAT'S MORE PRIMAL THAN THAT?!
                Recently survived Warrior Dash, New England.
                Game Developer, ex-Chef, long time Fatbody.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jimhensen View Post
                  Created. I feel fantastic after eating a sandwich on white bread with a side of veggies and bananas. I bet if I stopped eating grains for a few months and tried to eat the same thing I would feel horrible. That doesn't mean that I don't feel fantastic now when my body is used to eating grains though.
                  So other than trolling, what's your point? BTW, great story bro. If bread isn't a problem for you now, stopping eating it for a few months wouldn't suddenly make it a problem. It just doesn't happen that way. W/e, you have your beliefs.
                  My Fitday public journal.
                  Me vs. Russian Boar, hunt is on Aug. 20th. WHAT'S MORE PRIMAL THAN THAT?!
                  Recently survived Warrior Dash, New England.
                  Game Developer, ex-Chef, long time Fatbody.

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                  • #10
                    Uhuh. So going back to the alcohol analogy, since one serving of alcohol makes me feel horrible the next day (since I drink a serving maybe, oh once a month) it's my fault that I'm not imbibing something that clearly makes me feel horrible frequently enough?

                    And no, I never DID feel good after having wheat. I ate it because I liked the taste and then suffered the ill-effects. It's only that now the effects are emphasized.

                    I merely thought the Web MD article amusing, regarding their claims that a gluten-free diet may be nutritionally deficient and that celiac disease and gluten sensitivity are the results of us living in a more 'sterile' environment.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by davem View Post
                      Derp.

                      Check out scholar.google.com and come back after you do some reading. (Pubmed would be better if you have an account, but that's not common.)

                      Grains are a known inflammatory agent, with celiac only recently coming to light and more data being added to the body of knowledge daily. Most people don't know that it doesn't work for their system. Hell, I didn't until I restricted my diet and took a stepped approach to reintroducing them to my eating, and measuring the results. Anyone can do that, and it will put them in a much better place than where a dietician would have them. At the end of the day, you may not believe it, but the evidence paints a different picture.

                      One point of view is correct, the one with the empirical data.
                      Derp...I will just post the links and conclusions of some of the first studies that come up for "whole grains" on google scholar

                      Effect of whole grains on insulin sensitivity in overweight hyperinsulinemic adults

                      Conclusion: Insulin sensitivity may be an important mechanism whereby whole-grain foods reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes and heart disease.

                      Intakes of whole grains, bran, and germ and the risk of coronary heart disease in men

                      Conclusion: This study supports the reported beneficial association of whole-grain intake with CHD and suggests that the bran component of whole grains could be a key factor in this relation.

                      Diet and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease: independent beneficial effects of fruits, whole grains, and alcohol (the MORGEN study) - Tabak - 2002 - Clinical & Experimental Allergy - Wiley Online Library

                      Conclusions Our results suggest independent beneficial effects of fruits, whole grains and alcohol on COPD that are largely additive and cannot be explained by smoking habits.

                      These are just 3 on the first two pages...I am sure I could find a ton more that say similar things. Actually I have not found a study where increased whole grain consumption did anything other than lower chances of heart disease or cancer.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by davem View Post
                        I'll eat foie gras instead.
                        Foie gras ducks are tortured through force-feeding to get their livers big and fatty enough.
                        You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jimhensen View Post
                          How sensationalist can you get? Comparing eating some pizza to drinking a bottle of jack daniels. Come on now. From what I have read on this forum if you stop eating grains for an extended period of time you will probably get sick when you eat them. Most of you somehow rationalize that grains always made you feel bad you were just used to it...and obviously that isn't true. A whole lot of people eat grains every day and feel great...I bet many of the people here were like that before they started with eating primal. I personally think that people should embrace the 80/20 rule, eating grains a couple times a week at least, to avoid these problems.
                          I have bone on bone arthritis. I was on Rx ant-iinflammatories and pain meds. Walking, even when on the meds was painful. After stopping grains, the pain and swelling went away. I was able to get off all Rx drugs associated with the arthritis.

                          Today, when I eat grains-- I still love pizza-- the pain and swelling returns. My point-- I had no noticeable issues with grains. I wasn't even aware that my arthritis had a relationship to grains until I stopped eating them and , more importantly, had flares when I brought them back into diet.

                          I also experienced chronic diarrhea for years. Imodium was my best friend. That problem subsided after giving up grains. And while I still love pizza, I know to plan my infrequent forays when I can be close to the bathroom for a few days. Again, I didn't associate the problem with grain consumption with until after giving up the grains solved the problem.

                          So, while "a whole lot a people eat grains every day and (think they)feel great" they might be surprised to realize how much better they feel without grains and/or how weird/nagging/inexplicable issues go away.

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                          • #14
                            I think you can make a mock-up foi gras?

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                            • #15
                              you can make a mock up anything

                              and jim, the issues are discovered. not created. unless you're a hypochondriac.
                              beautiful
                              yeah you are

                              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                              lol

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