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    Does anyone follow a higher carb paleo diet? I am young, at my ideal weight, and at a low bodyfat. I don't want to lose any weight and I am fairly active.

    I was thinking of following paleo but eating like 200-250 grams of carbs a day. Alot of fruit and tubers. What do you think?

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    Have you been following the PB or some paleo diet for a while now? If not, try it and see if you do in fact lose weight. You may not.

    If you have been eating Primal/paleo and are losing weight, then favor tubers over fruit. Hope you like sweet potato.
    You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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    • #3
      There is nothing wrong with fruit. Don't be delusional. If you want I can throw TONS of pudmed studies up showing that eating lots of fruit is not bad for health or aesthetics.

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      • #4
        Then do whatever your little heart desires and refrain from asking for approval or input and then arguing with the results.
        <steps off soapbox>
        And furthermore, is pudmed some generic brand of Viagra?
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        • #5
          Actually there is quite a bit of evidence that fruit, or more specifically, the fructose those fruits contain, is not healthy. I don't think anyone is being delusional.
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          • #6
            Yep. I don't fear carbs. Look at my Friday.





            I eat all over the spectrum. Some are 60% calories from fat, some are 15% calories from fat, some are isocaloric (33/33/33 fat/protein/carbs). It depends what my activity level is for the day and how things fall. Now, here's how today went:



            A little different, no? And that was with a 2 hour gym workout.

            For certain people, you will lose more weight eating lower fat and higher carb. I am one of those people because I partition glycogen to absorb the carbohydrate calories. I can't do that eating high fat. I can easily maintain my weight eating high fat, but I have serious difficulty losing fat. When I cycle my carbohydrate, I can watch it fall off in the mirror. If I ate high fat, I'd still weigh 145 lbs. I weigh 133 now and I'm significantly stronger thanks to the increased workout performance the carbs give me. The key is choosing good carbs: white potatoes, sweet potatoes and white rice are the low-toxin champions. And yes, I realize I ate corn above, but that corn was fermented in greek yogurt, kefir and baker's yeast on my counter for a day and a half, then baked. This gets rid of most of the bad stuff in corn and it just leaves you with a great complex carbohydrate source. Masa harina is soaked in lime water as well, and soaking grains = good.
            Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 09-26-2011, 10:10 PM.
            Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mike Gager View Post
              Actually there is quite a bit of evidence that fruit, or more specifically, the fructose those fruits contain, is not healthy. I don't think anyone is being delusional.
              The fructose found in fruit is completely different than the fructose found in high fructose corn syrup, sucrose, agave syrup, processed honey and other processed sugars. I read this very interesting study regarding raw honey. When subjects were fed the clear, processed honey or HFCS, their triglycerides spiked through the roof. Raw honey, despite having roughly the same fructose content, didn't raise triglycerides. It would seem that natural, whole foods that contain fructose also contain enzymes and nutrients that mitigate the ill effects of isolated fructose. As with seemingly everything else, the good properties are lost when the compound is isolated. Whole foods are pretty much always better, friends.

              If you are at ideal weight, enjoy fruit. It's sweet for a reason - because nature WANTS you to eat it. It only makes sense that something that needs you to eat it for its reproduction and survival as a species (fruit seeds pass through your digestive system unharmed and they're spread through feces) would be good for you. Just like anything else, don't overdo it.
              Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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              • #8
                Thanks for such an awesome response choco.

                If these people seriously believe a healthy 19 year old kid trying to maintain his weight should not eat fruit, this forum is absolutely psychotic.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                  As with seemingly everything else, the good properties are lost when the compound is isolated. Whole foods are pretty much always better, friends.
                  This. Seriously.

                  I've been eating a high carb "paleo" diet for the past four months or so, and if anything, I've had better health overall. I eat anywhere from 300 to 500 grams of carbs per day. Sprouted brown rice, skinned potatoes, and lots of fruit make this work. I have anywhere from three to ten servings of fruit a day. Make sure you're keeping active and you reduce the fat according to your carb intake, and you'll be good to go!

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                  • #10
                    Definitely do it. There are few primal meals that would not be improved by the addition of a few sweet potato fries. I am looking to lose a few pounds (and I am losing a few pounds) and eat starch regularly, although not as much as you are talking about. But ya, if you're just looking for a healthy diet, that can certainly include plenty of natural starch sources.

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                    • #11
                      Has your body composition changed at all?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                        The fructose found in fruit is completely different than the fructose found in high fructose corn syrup, sucrose, agave syrup, processed honey and other processed sugars.
                        <snip>
                        Whole foods are pretty much always better, friends.
                        +1.

                        Oh, jeez. I've never seen people so afraid of an apple in my life.... and at a site called Mark's Daily Apple.

                        OP: you are young, active, and not metabolically damaged. Eat fruit.


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                        • #13
                          I eat high carb paleo, I typically eat 5k cals and ~800g carbs. I'm 23 ~175 6'2" highly active(20-40hrs of movement a week) trying to gain an additional 10-15lbs.

                          Eating like this has given me the best performance and health benefits out of anything I've tried(and I've basically have tried it all). I'm also the leanest and most muscular I've ever been

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Giantsbran View Post
                            Has your body composition changed at all?
                            Significantly. I've lost at least 12 pounds of body fat since lowering fats and cycling carbohydrates, as well as added 100 pounds to my deadlift, 80 pounds to my squats and 15 pounds to my benchpress. Basically, I'm much leaner and my entire body is stronger.
                            Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                            • #15
                              I'm doing it, I feel better.

                              Carbophobes seem to be people who used to be fat and don't respond to carbs well. I've always been lean and active and the low-carb thing didn't really work for me.

                              You can see the change over time in Robb Wolf's podcasts. He used to be a pro low-carb guy, now he says paleo is ''macronutrient agnostic''. I totally agree with that.

                              Eating well is about eating real, natural and rich food. Macronutrients don't matter more than food quality.

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