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    Sometimes I just keep eating, especially later at night. Even when I'm completely full I'll still eat sometimes. This happens a lot with bananas. I can't just eat one. And then after I eat like 5-6, I'm bloated. Mind you, it's always "primal" food.

    I'm an ectomorph if that helps.

    A few theories:

    1. I feel the need to eat food because my digestive system is telling me it's "full", and in a way needs more food to help it push the food forward in my digestive track.
    2. I'm not eating enough calories during the day (haven't counted them yet, will do in the future)
    3. Since this usually happens with fruits, it may just be a simple sugar craving.

    Any thoughts?
    Last edited by Bosnic; 09-26-2011, 06:05 PM.

  • #2
    Is it always with bananas or a few other specific foods? If so, try cuting them out completely for a while, then if you like, reintroduce them in moderation. I used to WAY overeat on nuts and couldn't moderate my intake. I stopped eating them at all for at least a month. Then when I reintroduced them I was able to eat them in moderation.

    Also, other members have reported success with digestive enzyme supplements. If your digestion is poor then you aren't getting the nutrition you should be from your food. which would explain being constantly hungry

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    • #3
      I have days like this. I'm not hungry but I just HAVE to keep eating. I find it's usually if I have a small lunch or skip an afternoon snack. I also keep it primal but I'm like why did I do that. How was your food during the day? And don't beat yourself up just go again tommorow.

      Mark
      Started at 307 regular diet and exercise went to 285 and stalled. Went primal and went to 227! I always was a brutish caveman now I eat like one!
      Goal weight.....?

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      • #4
        I can debunk your first theory. If your digestive system is good at one thing, it's making sure that food moves along through it. As soon as you swallow something, the whole system starts chugging away. Also, what leaves your stomach is called chyme and it's a liquid goop of dissolved food.

        Have you been trying very-low-carb or zero-carb eating? Adding potatoes, sweet potatoes, and maybe even white rice might help.
        You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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        • #5
          What are you eating? Next time try a few spoonfuls of lard (or beef tallow if you've already made it), coconut oil, or a whole can of aroy-d coconut milk. A stomach full of those and you'll be satisfied enough to push the plate away. I promise. It takes about 3000 calories to make me feel full. But it does happen.
          Crohn's, doing SCD

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          • #6
            Originally posted by yodiewan View Post
            Is it always with bananas or a few other specific foods? If so, try cuting them out completely for a while, then if you like, reintroduce them in moderation. I used to WAY overeat on nuts and couldn't moderate my intake. I stopped eating them at all for at least a month. Then when I reintroduced them I was able to eat them in moderation.

            Also, other members have reported success with digestive enzyme supplements. If your digestion is poor then you aren't getting the nutrition you should be from your food. which would explain being constantly hungry
            It's usually with heavy foods. Earlier I had a big plate of vermicelli (I know, not 100% primal), but even after filling my stomach with all those carbs, I could have easily just ate something more. My stomach feels completely full, and even feels a bit like it's "too full" or "clogged", and then I feel like I should eat more.

            I've contemplated digestive enzymes. I do believe I'm not absorbing enough nutrients. When I eat a few bananas, I'm instantly constipated for at least a day or more.

            How do these look?:
            http://www.nowfoods.com/Products/Pro...ic/M003113.htm

            Also, I have oral thrush which I can't seem to get rid of. It's most likely a sign of gut flora imbalance. If I cut out simple sugars and fruits, it reduces a lot, but it's always there. Maybe I need a probiotic?
            Last edited by Bosnic; 09-26-2011, 06:29 PM.

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            • #7
              Have you been trying very-low-carb or zero-carb eating? Adding potatoes, sweet potatoes, and maybe even white rice might help.
              Actually, I think it happens more with carby foods, especially bananas.

              I think the suggestion for more-fat will help. My diet is relatively low in fat. I just put some chicken in the oven for my lunch tomorrow, and I smothered it in coconut oil. lol

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              • #8
                How many calories are you eating? Six bananas may seem like a lot of food, but in reality, you're only eating around 600 calories. I'll probably be the only one on this forum to condone eating that much fruit, but in any case, it can take a while to get used to eating enough for your height, weight, and activity level. Depending on activity level, the average active male needs about 2,500 to 3,000 calories a day (athletes need even more). To put things in perspective, 16 oz. of steak is around 1,000 calories (more or less depending on the cut), 16 oz. of potatoes is about 400, and a tablespoon of oil is around 100.

                If you're constipated after eating that many bananas, make sure you're also drinking enough water. You might also want to consider eating fully ripe bananas; green-tipped ones usually cause indigestion for a lot of people. When they're spotty, they're ripe.
                Last edited by tarek; 09-26-2011, 06:39 PM.

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                • #9
                  I totally feel your pain. It has happened to me mostly with nuts and nut butters. I'm determined to get a handle on nuts- in fact, I think I'm doing much better with them as long as I don't keep too much around the house. Nut butters are simply on my "no way" list. And apparently coconut in all forms has some ill effect on me and is now being added to the "no" list, too.

                  *sigh*

                  It feels bad, though, doesn't it? I wish I were the kind of person who didn't track so meticulously, so then I wouldn't know! Trying to just move on when it happens though, and not obsess over it.

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                  • #10
                    You may want to try going completely gluten free for awhile. I used to have the exact same thing, especially after eating grains or gluten foods, especially pasta. I'm gluten intolerant and once I went GF it stopped. I eventually had to stop eating all grains because I just don't digest them well. I think my body was telling me that it didn't register what I was eating as food and wanted real sustenance.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bosnic View Post
                      Actually, I think it happens more with carby foods, especially bananas.

                      I think the suggestion for more-fat will help. My diet is relatively low in fat. I just put some chicken in the oven for my lunch tomorrow, and I smothered it in coconut oil. lol
                      I run into the same thing. If I eat carby food, even when I'm full, I still have the urge to keep shoveling stuff down my throat.

                      So, yeah. Try more fat, and less carbs.
                      "A man in this world without learning is as a beast of the field."

                      My Primal Journal

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                      • #12
                        Those of us with weight issues know that we have individual 'trigger' foods--items that will inspire us to eat more and more, well beyond 'full.'

                        Fruit will do that to me, and I think it's the sugar because anything sweet (artificial, too) is a trigger for me.

                        If you don't mind the calories, no harm. I stay away from all forms of sugar because there's diabetes in my family that I'm trying to avoid (all my siblings are type2).

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                        • #13
                          I don't know, Bosnic. I would go on a 40 hour fast to reset your brain.

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                          • #14
                            My experience is that high carb or sweet foods make it a lot easier for me to keep eating. I find I get a little 'ping' soon after that says 'eat something else!' And that's not good.

                            For me, falling off the wagon on that front is two fold. One, OK - I overate but worst of all, it's THAT much harder to stop continuing to do so. I now have to look at that stuff and think - is the struggle later worth it? Innocuous as ONE meal with pasta or a day with a lot of fruit may be, the fact that it causes that later reaction makes it a bigger deal. That's just me. That said, I go for 0-1 servings of fruit a day and I have to make sure it's eaten with some protein to not send me off the deep end.

                            I think you have to experiment and see what works for you and what doesn't give you the reaction that you find troublesome.

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                            • #15
                              Today I had some mixed greens and Chicken salad for lunch. I drizzled some coconut oil on top of it. I felt satisfied afterwards.

                              It must be the high carb foods then.

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