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    Some of us are taking Vitamin K2 doses in high doses. There are very few US suppliers that offer it in 15 mg. tablets. I was thrilled to find that it is buy one Get One Free as the stuff is fairly expensive ($49 for 90 capsules).

    Ultra K2 - 90 Capsules (15mg) - Vitamin Research Products

    About Vitamin K2 - it works together with D3 to direct calcium and other minerals where they belong - such as bones and teeth, and away from where they don't belong such as coronary arteries, kidney stones, etc. In Japan 45 mg. of K2 is the standard dose for reversing osteoporosis.
    Last edited by Adrianag; 09-19-2011, 10:54 AM.

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    It's already in my food. Why add more?
    Crohn's, doing SCD

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Adrianag View Post
      Some of us are taking Vitamin K2 doses in high doses. There are very few US suppliers that offer it in 15 mg. tablets. I was thrilled to find that it is buy one Get One Free as the stuff is fairly expensive ($49 for 90 capsules).

      Ultra K2 - 90 Capsules (15mg) - Vitamin Research Products

      About Vitamin K2 - it works together with D3 to direct calcium and other minerals where they belong - such as bones and teeth, and away from where they don't belong such as coronary arteries, kidney stones, etc. In Japan 45 mg. of K2 is the standard dose for reversing osteoporosis.
      Thanks... awesome deal!
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      • #4
        Based on Cillikat's recommendation, I have been using Thorne Research's Vitamin K2 Liquid. Have you tried this, and if so, notice any measurable difference between caps and liquid? I have never taken K2 as caps...

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        • #5
          Wow, I had never encountered a recommendation to take such large doses of K2 before! Apart from your quoted text above, Adrian, do you happen to have any links or references that support K2 megadosing?

          I have been using Life Extension's Super K, taking one per day:
          Life Extension, Super K, with Advanced K2 Complex, 90 Softgels - iHerb.com

          However, I know that I have significant bone thinning, so if larger K2 doses are warranted to reverse this problem, I'm very interested to know more.

          According to Dr. Mercola's site, recommended doses are supposedly much lower:
          10 Important Facts About Vitamin K That You Need to Know

          "How much Vitamin K do I need?
          Although the exact dosing is yet to be determined, one vitamin K expert, Dr. Cees Vermeer, recommends between 45 mcg and 185 mcg of vitamin K2 daily for adults. You must use caution on the higher doses if you take anticoagulants, but if you are generally healthy and not on these types of medications, I suggest 100 mcg of vitamin K2 daily.

          It is quite likely that doses of several times that amount are safe for the average person, but we just lack the research to confirm it at this time."

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          • #6
            I have been using Life Extension's Super K, taking one per day:
            You need k2, not plain K

            However, I know that I have significant bone thinning, so if larger K2 doses are warranted to reverse this problem, I'm very interested to know more.
            Protecting Bone And Arterial Health With Vitamin K2 - Life Extension

            In Japan, studies with osteoporotic women using 45mg/day of MK-4 have reported significant reductions in the rate of bone loss. (J Orthop Sci. 2001;6(6):487-492. and Annu Rev Nutr. 1995;15:1-22) A meta-analysis of seven Japanese randomized controlled trials indicated that MK-4 supplements increased bone mineral density and reduced fracture incidence. The studies indicated lowered risk for vertebral fractures by 60%, hip fractures by 77%, and nonvertebral fractures by 81%. (Arch Intern Med. 2006;166(12):1256-1261) A 45 mg/day dose of MK-4 supplements used in a 3-year placebo-controlled study of 325 postmenopausal women also found improved measures of bone strength compared to a placebo.(Osteoporos Int. 2007;18(7):963-972) In Japan, MK4 has been an approved medication for osteoporosis since 1995.
            Last edited by Adrianag; 09-19-2011, 06:33 PM.

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            • #7
              Thorne Research - Vitamin K2 Liquid 1 fl oz (30 ml) Another source its a great source for k2-

              More info;
              Vitamin K2 appears to offer significant benefit for supporting bone health.* Although much of the vitamin K2 research has been conducted on postmenopausal support for bones, because vitamin K2 does not have any estrogenic effects, vitamin K2 also offers bone support for other populations, including anorexics, dialysis patients, individuals with Parkinson's disease, those who have cirrhosis of the liver, individuals who have had a bone marrow transplant, those immobilized after a stroke, and individuals on chronic steroid therapy.* thanks....

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              • #8
                It's important to mention that the forms of B12 used here are superior to the more common cyanocobalamin as they are more readily available for use by the body.

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                • #9
                  Out of curiosity, why choose MK4 over MK7? Is there a $ savings or what?

                  I take MK7 since it stays in the body much longer than MK4, and thus only supplement once a day.

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                  • #10
                    I've asked this before, and I'll say it again. Given that the highest natural source of MK4 we know (foie gras, which itself depends on farming) is only 350-odd µg/100g, how could Grokka possibly have got hold of several milligrams of the stuff on a daily basis? I think there must be something we're missing here.

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                    • #11
                      Anyone aware of a brand that isn't soy/natto-based?
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                      • #12
                        To the best of my knowledge anything MK4 does not come from soy. Only MK7 is soy based.

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                        • #13
                          I take this a couple times a week.

                          Vitacost Ultra Vitamin K with Advanced K2 Complex -- 90 Softgels - Vitacost

                          I don't take supplements every day, and I don't think you should. Taking such high doses of isolated micronutrients...not something I love doing to my liver. It's just not natural. If you're eating a Primal diet, you shouldn't have to be supplementing much. I especially wouldn't touch an omega 3 supplement. Vitamin D is a pretty serious issue, too. Your body isn't made to get significant doses of Vitamin D orally, you're supposed to make it in the sunlight. It's brutal on your stomach. If you want Vitamin D, eat lunch outside, don't take a pill. I'll only take Vitamin D if I've been shut in in the office for a couple days in a row. The past 3 days, I've walked outside a minimum of 2.5 miles each day. I just walked 6-7 miles in the sun today. I won't be going near a Vitamin D/K2 supplement for a couple days.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Europeanson7
                            What are the dangers of taking an omega 3 supplement when your pretty much 100% paleo/primal?
                            The better question is why would you take an omega 3 supplement if you're pretty much 100% paleo/primal?

                            Here's my take on the issue:

                            The issue with the SAD isn't so much the lack of omega 3, but rather the overwhelmingly large intake of omega 6. With grains, legumes and vegetable oils removed from your diet, your omega 6 intake is going to be nowhere close to what the average American eats. I don't buy into the whole "balancing n3:n6" thing, and I think the "golden 1:1 ratio" is pure BS. I believe polyunsaturated fat is best kept low as a whole. Adding omega 3 supplementation to your diet does two things:

                            1.) It increases the amount of polyunsaturated fat in your diet.
                            2.) You're taking in refined, isolated polyunsaturated fat.

                            So, not only are you needlessly increasing your intake of unstable polyunsaturated fat, but a little known fact is omega 3 is even more unstable than omega 6. Just like the soybean oil sitting out on the grocery store shelves, there's a good chance your omega 3 supplement is rancid as well, especially if it's not loaded with tocopherols to keep it from spoiling. And do you keep it in an airtight glass jar in the freezer like you should? I doubt it. You're pumping yourself full of an isolated, potentially rancid oil for, in my opinion, really no good reason.

                            So, what do I do? I eat one pound of wild caught salmon a week. Those are my omega 3's. That's all I need, and that's all I take. I know my salmon isn't rancid, it's a whole food with lots of nutrition coming along for the ride and it tastes a whole lot better than some fake pill. I'm betting in the coming decades we'll see studies showing all kinds of problems coming from fish oil supplements. There have already been studies tying it to prostate cancer. I don't like messing with isolated oils, particularly isolated oils very rich in polyunsaturated fat of any kind. The only isolated fats I have in my house are virgin coconut oil, extra virgin olive oil, cocoa butter and grassfed butter. Those are very stable. Fish oil is even less stable than soybean oil. Eat fatty fish, not oil extracted by some white coat in a factory.
                            Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 05-20-2012, 08:13 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                              Vitamin D is a pretty serious issue, too. Your body isn't made to get significant doses of Vitamin D orally, you're supposed to make it in the sunlight. It's brutal on your stomach. If you want Vitamin D, eat lunch outside, don't take a pill.
                              Easy for you to say. I live at a latitude where suitable sunlight is available only from mid-April to mid-September, and only from around 10:00 to 15:00. The local climate means that maybe three days out of every seven in the summer are actually sunny (and even then that doesn't guarantee they'll actually be warm enough to cast off clothing). If those days don't happen to fall over a weekend, what am I supposed to do?

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