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    Hi everybody! Finally getting around to posting on the forums, I hope I'm in the right section! I'm looking for some help with getting primal right, mainly the diet, and any help whatsoever with chronic fatigue syndrome, or what my doctor currently believes is Adrenal Fatigue and is about to treat me for.

    First my general back-story, I'm an 18 year-old Male living in Australia, and I had glandular fever - or Mono (Mononucleosis) as I believe they call it in the states - three years ago now. I never really returned to good health afterwards and was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Since then I've learnt a lot about health which I'm very glad for, and have made several steps forward towards good health with setbacks here and there, but getting better!

    I worked a lot on my diet changing, eliminating all preservatives, sugars, caffeine, dairy, gluten and eggs (which I seem to react to but am not sure if it is just something that is added to the eggs or some other factor/s) Having a Filipino mother I've always eaten rice so I kept that into my diet until I started reading about paleo, and stumbled upon mark's daily apple. It's come to make sense to me that there really isn't much nutrition in the rice apart from plain carbs, and would be much better eating something like quinoa or sweet potato, but I thought I would try the low carb approach.

    This is where the biggest problem I'm having is, whenever I try going primal I get constipated for 2-3 days at a time (currently been constipated for 3 days at the moment : ( trying to clear it up with prune juice) so I must be doing something wrong. I'm taking a probiotic at the moment, and am thinking of making my own sauerkraut with the recipe on the website and possibly finding a digestive enzyme.

    I think what might be happening is that I've taken the rice out of my diet, and increased the meat intake and the vegetable intake equally, where what I actually need to do is keep the meat intake the same and increase the vege's/fruit a lot? Could it be too much protein for my stomach making me constipated? I've also read whilst searching through the forums that it might be because I'm not eating enough fat, what kind of fats should I add on if I'm having trouble with this constipation?

    I love the energy I had and the lack of cravings for food when I go primal, just I need to figure this constipation out, I never got constipated whilst eating rice but without it things just don't work. I'm thinking of just settling with substituting rice for quinoa and sweet potato but I'd still love any help anybody could give me with constipation and chronic fatigue syndrome

    thanks for your time!

  • #2
    Veggies = natural laxative:-)...Increase, and you should notice a change...Grok On!
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    • #3
      Try a glass of milk or two.

      When I was knocking back a gallon and a half a day I had really smooth drops.

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      • #4
        veggies and liquids in general, maybe even an avocado and some ground golden flaxseed.
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        • #5
          I had issues with constipation most of my adult life. When I stopped eating grains and started eating healthy fats instead, the issue ceased. I have always eaten lots of veggies and meat so that was not the solution. It was deleting all grains and adding healthy animal fats and/or coconut oil. Coconut oil is certainly good for regulation. As matter of fact I would be careful how much of that you ingest to start with. It can act as a laxative until you get used to it.
          Cooking with CO makes your food taste sooo fresh though. hmmmm

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          • #6
            Put some butter on those veggies.

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            • #7
              I would also recommend the coconut oil/ coconut milk, but start carefully! I got stomach pains when I first started with coconut oil, but I started with a big amount. If you search on this forum for coconut oil/milk you'll find out why, don't remember at the moment. BTW, I also had mono and have CFS and would love any ideas if any of you know of any alternative treatment or something.
              It turns out that common sense is not as common as we thought.

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              • #8
                Leafy greens, plenty of healthy fats, and add magnesium citrate supplement. Your body will balance out over time.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by curreh View Post
                  This is where the biggest problem I'm having is, whenever I try going primal I get constipated for 2-3 days at a time (currently been constipated for 3 days at the moment : ( trying to clear it up with prune juice) so I must be doing something wrong. I'm taking a probiotic at the moment, and am thinking of making my own sauerkraut with the recipe on the website and possibly finding a digestive enzyme.

                  I think what might be happening is that I've taken the rice out of my diet, and increased the meat intake and the vegetable intake equally, where what I actually need to do is keep the meat intake the same and increase the vege's/fruit a lot? Could it be too much protein for my stomach making me constipated? I've also read whilst searching through the forums that it might be because I'm not eating enough fat, what kind of fats should I add on if I'm having trouble with this constipation?
                  Gut Sense: Restoring Natural Bowel Movements


                  The Blog of Michael R. Eades, M.D. Tips & tricks for starting (or restarting) low-carb Pt II
                  The Science Behind The “Low Carb Flu”, and How To Regain Your Metabolic Flexibility - GNOLLS.ORG

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                  • #10
                    thanks so much for all the replies and help! Got into some coconut oil some avocado, probiotic and magnesium this morning Going to read through all your stuff js290, thank you very much

                    Oh and Classic I absolutely love cooking with coconut oil now haha, the flavour it adds to everything is brilliant, can't help but snack on it whilst I'm cooking ;P

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                    • #11
                      Thumbs up on TONS of fruits and veggies. Meat is irrelevant, and so are the oils -- they never make it to the colon! This is all about fiber, regardless of whatever else you read (unless you have lactose intolerance -- then all bets are off).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by curreh View Post
                        where what I actually need to do is keep the meat intake the same and increase the vege's/fruit a lot?
                        I would try this. I find having meat make up 1/4-1/3 of my plate (at the most) and filling the rest w/ veg (sometimes a bit of fruit or a starchy veg) makes me feel best. Good luck figuring out what works best for you!
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                        • #13
                          I'm all empathy hon. I deal with CFS too as well as adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism and they are all interconnected. Have you had your hormones checked? I deal with constipation all the time and know it is from the hormonal imbalances. The only thing that helps me is a lot of magnesium citrate. Helps me sleep and helps me go:-)
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                          • #14
                            Improving your gut flora may help. You could look into GAPs or the SCD diet. Take lots of quality probiotics, fermented veggies and so on.
                            Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

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                            • #15
                              Yeah I'm definitely cranking up the probiotics and magnesium which is helping, thanks everybody : ) Trying to find some quality cabbage to make my own sauerkraut. I'll look up those diets thanks Horsewoman!

                              Yeah I thought it might have to do something with my thyroid for a long time hermanda, but at the moment my doctor firmly believes that it's the adrenals that are the root of the problem, which in turn make it hard for my thyroid, so I'm waiting on a bunch of supplements for adrenal fatigue

                              In the mean-time though I'm getting my stomach right, ordering a pro-biotic I heard of from the states called "Flora-Balance" The people that make it apparently deal with CFS a lot and lots of people have been helped very much by it. It makes sense of all my nutrient deficiencies and sensitive stomach that something could be wrong in my stomach. Many people have marked beginnings of bad health it seems when they take anti-biotics, or some other event happens that destroys the gut flora and then they go through very bad health.

                              So I'm going to try fixing my gut by re-committing to very low carb without any sugars, I'm not too sure what fruits I can eat whilst doing this? Was watching the gut-sense video and they were talking about starving out any candida/yeast in the stomach from sugars. And then add in all the veges I can, fat instead of carbs for energy, probiotics, nutrient supplements and sauerkraut Any other suggestions for fixing my gut?

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