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  • #16
    Originally posted by Goldsmith View Post
    yeah, I would strongly recommend reading more about carb refeeds before you attempt another one.
    yeah i guess i will have to. i know that starchy carbs are recommended but didnt know why other then they arent as unhealthy as unstarchy carbs. pizza and doughnuts obviously werent good choices but i was under the impression it was "teh carbs" that were important, not how you obtained them. i figured if i was going to eat carbs might as well be something i enjoyed
    Primal Chaos
    37yo 6'5"
    6-19-2011 393lbs 60" waist
    current 338lbs 49" waist
    goal 240lbs 35" waist

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mike Gager View Post
      yeah i guess i will have to. i know that starchy carbs are recommended but didnt know why other then they arent as unhealthy as unstarchy carbs. pizza and doughnuts obviously werent good choices but i was under the impression it was "teh carbs" that were important, not how you obtained them. i figured if i was going to eat carbs might as well be something i enjoyed
      On carb re-feed days it's important to keep fat low. Pizza and doughnuts are carby but they also contain a lot of fat (and the unhealthy, inflammatory, PUFA, omega 6-heavy fats too). Whereas stuff like rice and sweet potatoes are basically pure starch.
      Last edited by spakesneaker; 09-14-2011, 07:44 AM.

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      • #18
        For those of you that are wondering... != is from programming, and we have a LOT of geeks around here (i.e.: people willing to spend real time and energy to understand things of interest to them such as HEALTH). It's just some of the geeks are also computer/math/science geeks as well.

        Here's how it often runs...
        a = b (define a to be equal to b)
        a == b (a and b are the same)
        a >= b (a is the same as or bigger than b)
        a <= b (reverse of the above)
        a != b (a is NOT the same as b)

        I suspect it's because there is no "equal with a slash through it" character. :-)

        With the geek/primal overlap, I see a lot of tech jargon slipped in here periodically.
        Life is short: Void the warranty.

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        • #19
          I think we've all done something like this Mike. Just say 20 Hail Groks and eat a steak. You'll be better in the morning.
          Georgette

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          • #20
            Kind of an aside, but I wrote a little guide on using math symbols in writing a while back. (Some of my friends seemed to be struggling with it.) It strikes as somewhat relevant here.


            The equals sign is a mathematical symbol that denotes equality. It is used when two sides of an equation are exactly equal, not simply when they are similar to each other. It certainly is not used to give an adjectival or nominal description of what something is, eg 3x+2=linear expression.

            If you are speaking English and you want to express that you like bacon or that you believe the Giants are superior to all other baseball teams then you are probably going to want to use some form of the verb "to be". So you might say, "Bacon IS awesome!" or, "The Giants ARE the best!" You don't want to say, "Bacon=awesome," or "Giants=best". This would suggest that the two terms are interchangeable, which they surely are not. ("What do you think about the Giants?" "They're bacon!" or "Bacon is the Giants food!") When in doubt, stick to English words like are or is, and you probably stand a greatly reduced chance of sounding like a jackass.

            The inequality sign is a bit more lenient simply because it is far more likely that the different things you're discussing are, in fact, not equal to each other. For example, "bacon does not equal is awesome" is a correct statement even though we can all agree that bacon is awesome. While it may sometimes be desirable to express an inequality in your writing ("Tom Selleck does not equal Tom Skerrit"), the standard English keyboard does not allow for the creation of an inequality sign. So rather than try to create some sort of lol-emoticon type inequality sign like /=/ or != you should once again probably just stick to English words. ("Despite having similar names and appearances, Tom Selleck and Tom Skerritt are not actually the same entity.")

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            • #21
              != is not a lol-emoticon type inequality sign. It's fairly standard and should be recognizable to anyone that has taken a basic programming class in high school or college.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dado View Post
                != is not a lol-emoticon type inequality sign. It's fairly standard and should be recognizable to anyone that has taken a basic programming class in high school or college.
                Well then I must be an ijit because I never took either. It's just easier if people would just type out what they are trying to say.
                Georgette

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by geostump View Post
                  Well then I must be an ijit because I never took either. It's just easier if people would just type out what they are trying to say.
                  Well even if you didn't take it, it's pretty straight forward. It's not a stretch for the mind to understand that != means not equal, especially given the context of the post.

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                  • #24
                    ^None of this is relevant, let's get back on topic. I don't think it's straight forward in the least. ! makes me think of factorials or expression, so why on earth would it suddenly mean "not"?

                    For the record, I usually see =/= to indicate "not equal to" on the internet, as one would draw an equal sign with a slash through it. Everybody needs to be a little more open minded and stop getting so defensive!
                    Depression Lies

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                    • #25
                      i just thought he made a typo and meant to type Grains! + sugar! = UNhealthy carbs
                      Primal Chaos
                      37yo 6'5"
                      6-19-2011 393lbs 60" waist
                      current 338lbs 49" waist
                      goal 240lbs 35" waist

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by dado View Post
                        Well even if you didn't take it, it's pretty straight forward. It's not a stretch for the mind to understand that != means not equal, especially given the context of the post.
                        Er yeah, I'm 35 and I don't have my IT geek to creative arts dictionary out. Sorry. Back to topic.

                        Like I said, just say 20 Hail Groks and eat a steak. Getting back on track is all you can do.
                        Georgette

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Mike Gager View Post
                          yeah i guess i will have to. i know that starchy carbs are recommended but didnt know why other then they arent as unhealthy as unstarchy carbs. pizza and doughnuts obviously werent good choices but i was under the impression it was "teh carbs" that were important, not how you obtained them. i figured if i was going to eat carbs might as well be something i enjoyed
                          I always get achy and grumpy after eating wheat. Pain is a good motivator to avoid the cause. Grain is a carb but it is a BAD carb. Root veggies are good carbs.

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                          • #28
                            Well, I must have been sick that day the new math rule was covered. I missed it, but recognized the post as so over-the-top as to elevate it to joke status. Or were you just quoting some ADA?

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                            • #29
                              So did the same thing a few weeks ago, Mike. I had two beers and an ice cream on a Friday night awhile back, and I paid for it for three days (I am a 5'2" girl, so that's a lot of carbs for a small body.) I had all your symptoms, plus stomach upset and diarrhea. Ugh....

                              Back on the wagon!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by gunnk View Post
                                I suspect it's because there is no "equal with a slash through it" character. :-)
                                Sugar ≠ healthy

                                Unicode for the win!
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                                Poke it quickly, with a stick.

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