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    Hi Everyone,

    So I have heard so many talk about relief from joint pain when taking grains out of their diet, and I was just wandering how long it took before you guys could feel a noticeable difference?

    Also did you see the difference because you changed your diet and your exercise pattern or was it the diet alone?

    Lonnie

  • #2
    I didn't suffer from joint pain, but I did have other issues that cleared up when I stopped grains. Maybe these will give you an idea of the range...

    4 days grain-free: noticeable improvement in acid reflux problem (it was a 6 antacid per day problem)
    2 weeks grain-free: last antacid (it's now been about 9 months without problems)
    2 months grain-free: noticed decline in asthma problems
    4 months grain-free: off asthma medications (this has been a problem since my teens)

    On the other hand, even a TINY cheat (i.e.: a martini with wheat-based vodka in it) and I'm tight-chested and/or wheezing within a few HOURS.

    So... a range of problems and a range of healing times. I do hope someone can chime in more specifically about joint pain for you, but I suspect it may vary a lot between people.
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    • #3
      Actually this is great feel free to chime in with anything - I kinda like to move the motivation away from weight loss onto general health and well being... Impressive improvement gunnk!

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      • #4
        Another thing to keep in mind: I've noticed that nightshades (especially bell peppers) seriously aggravate my own joint issues. Try cutting out nightshades for a month, then carefully adding in to see which ones affect you. Mine are bell peppers, cucumbers, and tomatoes in order of worst to least affected
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        • #5
          My joint issues are related to gluten AND sugar...so I have to keep both in check (including not too much fruit). Anyhoo...initially it took about 2 weeks to see noticeable relief in my joints.
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          • #6
            My is gluten related as well and several weeks to see the difference

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            • #7
              Yes - nightshades are a huge issue for me. I have severe arthritis and did a lectin free version of primal to start. You eliminate all the high lectin groups for a period of time and then if/when your joint pain has improved you add one group in at a time to see what the trouble group is. It took about 5 days nightshade free to feel a difference for me but I continued to improve for at least a month or two. Be careful though - nightshades are hidden everywhere! So when you do a trial you have to be a lunatic about reading labels, etc until you get the hang of it. Paprika is hidden in just about everything But it really is worth it.

              THE LECTIN STORY
              Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

              http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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              • #8
                It took about 2-4 weeks to see a big difference in my joint pain when I cut gluten. I'm now following a low starch diet as seen here, well my own paleo version KickAS.org - London AS Diet and it is definately improving things even more. If I eat something starchy now I get bone deep aching all over, very unpleasant.

                It is definately diet that makes the difference. I did a year of iyengar yoga and that didn't help at all.
                Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

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                • #9
                  I think it was about 10 days to 2 weeks when I noticed joint pain relief. I still consumed nightshades though. For the past several days I was in a situation where I had no control over my meals and yesterday and today I've had lots of the old aches and pains resurface. I did try to do the best with my meal choices that I could, but it wasn't good.

                  As soon as I got back home I went straight back to grain/gluten and sugar free--including fruit-- so I'm hoping those aches and pains go away quickly. I haven't had any nightshades yet, so I think I'll see if the joint pain goes away more quickly if I keep them out.
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                  • #10
                    a week or 2 on the joint pain, not real sure because one day I stood up and thought, mmm that was easier than I remember. I cut out grains and sugar (including fruit) at the same time as I added vitamin D (both as sun exposure and 3 x's 1,000 IU tablets) and I am pretty sure that contributed as well.
                    Chris
                    "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                    My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                    • #11
                      It didn't take long, maybe a couple of weeks, to see improvement. My carpal tunnel is 10x better as well.

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                      • #12
                        [QUOTE=jammies;567332]Yes - nightshades are a huge issue for me. I have severe arthritis and did a lectin free version of primal to start. You eliminate all the high lectin groups for a period of time and then if/when your joint pain has improved you add one group in at a time to see what the trouble group is. It took about 5 days nightshade free to feel a difference for me but I continued to improve for at least a month or two. Be careful though - nightshades are hidden everywhere! So when you do a trial you have to be a lunatic about reading labels, etc until you get the hang of it. Paprika is hidden in just about everything But it really is worth it.

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                        I think my worst problem was potatoes. Potato starch is also hidden in many things (shredded cheese, many dressings) also known as modified food starch. I noticed a huge improvement w/in 3 days. This was pre-primal and avoiding nightshades only. I used to ache w/ storms also but now since primal and nighshade free, I rarely have bad days.

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                        • #13
                          Another thing to try would be to get a massage regularly. I found that my joints would be sore after harder workouts(usually a day or two), and a friend mentioned that nerve points get blocked, causing the soreness. After a good massage/stretch it loosened things quite well and the pain went away. Just my two pence:-)
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                          • #14
                            I had joint pain go away within the first month or so. It was noticeable that the pain disappeared while I was still carrying excess weight.

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                            • #15
                              I don't know when my joint pain initially went away BUT I screwed up last night and ate a bag of Doritos (I was starving, I'm deployed, and our food selection is getting progressively worse) and woke up this morning with a wrecked stomach and all my old joint issues. My stomach is back to normal but my knees are still killing... I'll check back in once the pain stops.

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