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    hi i got a problem.. im trying to be on a low carb diet (trying to be around 80g a day) but i just cant stop thinking about candies and stuff (im realy an addictive person when it comes to candies.
    im not saying thats all i think about all day is candies but somtimes it just gets in my mind and it drives me crazy.
    can you guys give me any tips about this subject? right at this moment im fighting myself like crazy not to go and buy a Ben&Jerry's ice cream lol..

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    My solution to my problem was to join Overeaters Anonymous. It's there if you want it. Others on the forums will/may also have good info. Good luck. What you fight owns you.





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    • #3
      Whenever you crave sweets, eat fat. Coconut oil is good for this. Just grab a spoon and dig in. Coconut cream concentrate from Tropical Traditions is good too. Hits you belly like a brick, and is slightly sweet.
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      • #4
        Coconut oil has help me too.





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        • #5
          Yeah, I can give you some hard-won experience with this stuff.

          Some possible causes/fixes for carb craving issues:

          -mild hypoglycemia? Tends to be present in many people who are overweight (if you are). Do you also get grumpy, angry, dizzy, tired etc concurrent with your carb cravings? If so, try glutamine supplements or powder.
          -glutamine can also shut down carb cravings fast even in people without hypoglycemia, so give it a shot.
          -Low serotonin? Look for other low serotonin issues like poor sleep, low mood, low self esteem, negative or compulsive thoughts, impulsivity, etc. A brain suffering from too little serotonin will often start demanding carbs to self-medicate. Try 5htp or St. John's wort supplements.
          -Low dopamine? If you also have low energy, focus and concentration problems, low motivation, apathy, blah mood, etc? Same brain effect as low serotonin. I unwittingly medicated low dopamine with compulsive sugar eating for years. Try tyrosine or DLPA supplements. A really good test for this is whether black coffee will switch off (temporarily) your carb cravings. Try it next time you have one.
          -Emotional attachment to carbs/habit? Both of these are powerful. There's a lot of crap in North American (and most other) cultures about linking togetherness, fun, relaxation, celebration etc to carb foods. Try some simple NLP like reframing and affirmations to reprogram all that stuff. It can always help to look at any habits you have built around carb foods. Often it helps to just find something primal that you can have instead. There are good substitutes for most carb foods.
          -Poor sleep/chronic sleep deprivation? I got a lecture from my shrink about this, and it IS very important. There's a big cultural push to be The Warrior Who Does Not Sleep, but most people need about 7hrs minimum. There are exceptions. But most people get- at most- 5-6hrs regularily. This isn't enough, your brain knows this even if your conscious mind doesn't or won't admit it, and this will often lead to carb cravings to medicate the lack of adequate sleep.
          -Stress? This can link in with habit and hypoglycemia- both can create a pattern of using carbs (all the classic comfort foods are simple carbs, no coincidence) to unwind or feel better after stressful events or just daily stress. The usual stuff like taking a walk instead, meditation, bubble baths, etc as alternative stress relievers can help here.

          Finally, some people may just need higher/more carbs. So if none of that works, try adding in a bit of stuff like wild rice, sweet potatos or squash vegetables, fruit, etc.

          Good luck.
          Getting my Grok on in the Pacific Northwest.

          "C is for cookie, that's good enough for me."
          "Cookie is a sometimes food."
          "Sometimes cookie monster eat APPLE instead of COOKIE. Sometimes eat CARROT."
          -Cookie Monster, partially reformed sugarholic

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          • #6
            Find some quick toe-tapping music and just listen to it. I recommend "The Crawl" by Spirit of the West.
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            • #7
              The key for me was when you wrote that sometimes it 'just gets in my mind.' I have the same problem, and I realized that the more I entertained the thoughts, the stronger they became until I just had to have Ben & Jerry. So now when that happens, I do something to change my 'head chatter.' I find something that will distract me, and the craving disappears as soon as I get it out of my mind. It may resurface, but I just keep "changing the channel."

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              • #8
                Tell yourself you will get Ben & Jerry's tomorrow. Then eat something high fat/low carb. You have to fight the carb cravings. It takes about 30 days of low carbs to get the cravings under control. If you give in to the cravings you have to start all over. Yesterday I was so jonesing for some dark chocolate covered almonds (my kriptonite). I did not get them and today I am not craving them at all.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by saarx1 View Post
                  hi i got a problem.. im trying to be on a low carb diet (trying to be around 80g a day) but i just cant stop thinking about candies and stuff (im realy an addictive person when it comes to candies.
                  im not saying thats all i think about all day is candies but somtimes it just gets in my mind and it drives me crazy.
                  can you guys give me any tips about this subject? right at this moment im fighting myself like crazy not to go and buy a Ben&Jerry's ice cream lol..
                  BTDT. How long have you been trying to go sugar free? A few things that helped me:

                  Load up on protein, protein, protein and fat, fat, fat....those are like the antidotes to sugar.

                  I also really suggest going to youtube and watching Dr. Lustig's "Sugar, the Bitter Truth" lecture. There is nothing whatsoever harmless about the candy or Ben & Jerry's, and if you're going to eat it, you need to know exactly what it's going to do to you. That video WOKE ME UP and scared the hell out of me about what I'd been doing to myself.

                  I've been sugar free for more than 4 months now and the cravings are by and large gone, but on the occasion it sneaks back into my head, I just tell myself "nah, not right now" which seems to make it easier to push away the craving than saying "never again for as long as I live" which would just lead to a very bad thought process.

                  I've heard 5-HTP can be really helpful for afternoon/evening sugar cravings. I bought some, just in case, but didn't end up needing it. This is supposed to help with seratonin issues, but I don't recall exactly how it's supposed to work. It wasn't expensive that I recall, so wouldn't hurt to keep some around.

                  You can try green tea with stevia. You'll get the sweet taste, and stevia I believe is about the only thing with a sweet taste that shouldn't cause any sort of insulin response. However, if tasting something sweet it just going to make you want sugar more, then just don't even go there at all.

                  Mostly you just have to give it time and give yourself a chance to adjust to life without sugar...if you've used it to make yourself feel better, for energy, for whatever reason, of course you're going to want it when circumstances present themselves where you've reached for sugar before. So you have to push through, form new habits and get used to sailing through those moments sugar free. The cravings DO subside in time, and it's definitely worth it.
                  Last edited by Ummmmya; 08-22-2011, 02:04 PM.

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                  • #10
                    I also find coconut oil great for carb cravings. Coconut milk poured over frozen blueberries satisfies my cravings for smoothies and ice cream, especially with a few tiny bits of dark chocolate added.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CandylandCanary View Post
                      Yeah, I can give you some hard-won experience with this stuff.

                      Some possible causes/fixes for carb craving issues:

                      -mild hypoglycemia? Tends to be present in many people who are overweight (if you are). Do you also get grumpy, angry, dizzy, tired etc concurrent with your carb cravings? If so, try glutamine supplements or powder.
                      -glutamine can also shut down carb cravings fast even in people without hypoglycemia, so give it a shot.
                      -Low serotonin? Look for other low serotonin issues like poor sleep, low mood, low self esteem, negative or compulsive thoughts, impulsivity, etc. A brain suffering from too little serotonin will often start demanding carbs to self-medicate. Try 5htp or St. John's wort supplements.
                      -Low dopamine? If you also have low energy, focus and concentration problems, low motivation, apathy, blah mood, etc? Same brain effect as low serotonin. I unwittingly medicated low dopamine with compulsive sugar eating for years. Try tyrosine or DLPA supplements. A really good test for this is whether black coffee will switch off (temporarily) your carb cravings. Try it next time you have one.
                      -Emotional attachment to carbs/habit? Both of these are powerful. There's a lot of crap in North American (and most other) cultures about linking togetherness, fun, relaxation, celebration etc to carb foods. Try some simple NLP like reframing and affirmations to reprogram all that stuff. It can always help to look at any habits you have built around carb foods. Often it helps to just find something primal that you can have instead. There are good substitutes for most carb foods.
                      -Poor sleep/chronic sleep deprivation? I got a lecture from my shrink about this, and it IS very important. There's a big cultural push to be The Warrior Who Does Not Sleep, but most people need about 7hrs minimum. There are exceptions. But most people get- at most- 5-6hrs regularily. This isn't enough, your brain knows this even if your conscious mind doesn't or won't admit it, and this will often lead to carb cravings to medicate the lack of adequate sleep.
                      -Stress? This can link in with habit and hypoglycemia- both can create a pattern of using carbs (all the classic comfort foods are simple carbs, no coincidence) to unwind or feel better after stressful events or just daily stress. The usual stuff like taking a walk instead, meditation, bubble baths, etc as alternative stress relievers can help here.

                      Finally, some people may just need higher/more carbs. So if none of that works, try adding in a bit of stuff like wild rice, sweet potatos or squash vegetables, fruit, etc.

                      Good luck.
                      this is an excellent post. thank you so much! i have many (if not all) of the symptoms of low serotonin and dopamine you mentioned. when i come off a sugar high i am the angriest, saddest, irritable bitch in the world. i feel 'strung out' on sugar sometimes.

                      Originally posted by emmie View Post
                      The key for me was when you wrote that sometimes it 'just gets in my mind.' I have the same problem, and I realized that the more I entertained the thoughts, the stronger they became until I just had to have Ben & Jerry. So now when that happens, I do something to change my 'head chatter.' I find something that will distract me, and the craving disappears as soon as I get it out of my mind. It may resurface, but I just keep "changing the channel."
                      this is exactly how i feel. i get myself all anxious thinking about sugar......... it's so hard to find a suitable distraction sometimes. do you go for something that is also pleasurable or just anything that will occupy your mind/time (like cleaning the bathtub or something)?

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                      • #12
                        I hear you, I've just come off a 3 day sugar binge while visiting relatives, not all day, but indulging in ice cream or chocolate every day. And now I'm fighting to get back on track, today was hard but I know tomorrow will be easier and I'll be fine by the end of the week. It's easier for me not to give in because then I just crave more and more, and have to fight my way back again.

                        But to answer your question, meat works for me. Today I fought the sugar cravings by eating chicken soup and pork stew. It really fills me up, and then I don't want to eat anything. So my answer is more meat!

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                        • #13
                          this is an excellent post. thank you so much! i have many (if not all) of the symptoms of low serotonin and dopamine you mentioned. when i come off a sugar high i am the angriest, saddest, irritable bitch in the world. i feel 'strung out' on sugar sometimes.
                          No problem.

                          And yeah, it definitely sounds like you're a charter member of the sugar/carb-induced Super-Bitch Harpy Queen club. My condolences!

                          One other note, though. I found that my serotonin and dopamine depletion was severe enough to require further prescription meds. I'm on wellbutrin, trazodone and (probably soon) aderall too. So I'd advise all us Sugar-Bitchqueen people to try the herbal-amino acid supplements first. But if it's not enough- and I think it's become increasingly common that it's not- go for meds on top of all the supplements.

                          What always reminds me of this is what an addiction counsellor once said (and it was on like, Celebrity Rehab or something, but it still was scientifically verified). In 1950, the average addict was a 50 year old man who had drank for 35 years. Then in 1980, the average was a 30 year old man who had drank and used cocaine or heroin for 15 years- AND was already, in less than half the time of abuse- twice or three times as sick as the previous average. And a significant portion of them had underlying depression, biplor or ADHD, whereas this had been rare in 1950.

                          Then in 1990, the average addict was a 20 year old woman or man, they had drank and used narcotics and smoked pot for 10 years. They now almost ALL had underlying mental illnesses. They all had serious malnutrition. About half of them presented with eating disorders as well. They were easily ten times as sick as the average in 1950- in almost a quarter of the time.

                          Now, in 2011? The average addict is 17 years old, they have drank and used drugs for 8 years. They ALL- every single one of them- have underlying mental illnesses. They ALL are severely malnourished. ALL of them either under or overeat. They are 20-30 times as sick as that average man in 1950.

                          My point? Everyone is getting sicker much much faster. You don't need to have a drug addiction or clinical ED to have slipped into the danger zone in terms of over or undereating and malnutrition. The rates of serious mental illness are sharply climbing.

                          So the caveat of try the supplements first, but be ready to consider further steps. It's not rare at all anymore. I wasted about 2 years even after I figured out the amino acid part, just because I thought that if I was ACTUALLY depressed, or inattentive ADD, or mildly cyclothymic, it would be a very rare and obvious thing. But noooo. It's common as mud.

                          Hell, my mom was saying the other day- when she was a girl (in 1960ish), there was one fat child at her school. ONE. People with depression were all adults, and quite rare. When I was that age myself, in 1990, there were 10 fat kids in my class of 22. Three of them were on meds for ADHD. Now in 2011, my niece's class of 20 has 15 fat kids. Half of them are on meds for mental illness of some kind. ALL of them are on diets of some kind.

                          Every single member of my family is on a diet. Without exception.

                          It amazes me how violently progressive this stuff is.
                          Getting my Grok on in the Pacific Northwest.

                          "C is for cookie, that's good enough for me."
                          "Cookie is a sometimes food."
                          "Sometimes cookie monster eat APPLE instead of COOKIE. Sometimes eat CARROT."
                          -Cookie Monster, partially reformed sugarholic

                          "

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