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    That's how I feel when I cave in and eat sugar or carbs! I actually get very depressed which leads me down the road to laziness and a terrible attitude/mood. I feel so energized and mentally positive when I avoid sugar/carbs but if I have just one bowl of ice cream I go off the deep end. It actually leads to more cravings. I have been Primal for quite awhile now with excellent results but if I go to a party and eat a little bit of sugar/carbs, it opens the flood gates and I crave more junk, get very lazy and depressed, and basically just make everyone around me miserable! I know that cheating once in awhile isn't the end of the world for most people but for me it seems to be. Anyone else out there have this problem or am I just a real nut job??

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    A major contributor to my problem is when I run out of primal food in the house and eat what my wife buys for her and my 2 yr. old son. This doesn't happen too often but it does happen. Can I blame my wife?? LOL.

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    • #3
      hahaha blame yourself for eating your toddler's food!

      Gerber? that stuff is delicious. Back off, this mango one is worth the depression.
      I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by iniQuity View Post
        hahaha blame yourself for eating your toddler's food!

        Gerber? that stuff is delicious. Back off, this mango one is worth the depression.
        LOL! No, my wife has the frozen pizzas, ice cream, Goldfish and chips. We do feed him healthy foods but she still has them for snacks. My wife eats whatever she wants in moderation and she looks amazing. She doesn't understand why I can't just sit down and have 2 cookies instead of the whole sleeve.

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        • #5
          Yeah don't blame your wife or she will fill your future success story with nasty comments. See mine for an example...

          I had similar issues where if food was in the house it was really tempting, and eating a little bit here and there usually would lead to eating too much. I did several 30-day stints with no cheats whatsoever and that really helped me a lot. During each period, I didn't have any off-plan foods at all. Not one bite, one chip, etc. No excuses, no 'its just one time', no special occasions.. you get the idea. It's not as easy as it sounds, but once you commit yourself to it and know that you simply are not going to eat the processed foods, it's pretty easy to follow.

          Good luck and stay strong! No one is perfect.
          5-24-10 ................ 5-24-11
          Weight: 281.......... Weight: 203

          10-11-10
          Weight: 259
          Total Cholesterol: 243
          LDL: 188
          HDL: 40
          Trig: 96

          2-18-11
          Weight: 228
          Total Cholesterol: 239
          LDL: 183 (calc), 138 (actual)
          HDL: 46
          Trig: 49

          6-23-11
          Weight: 197.2
          Total Cholesterol: 225
          LDL: 161 (calc), 120 (actual)
          HDL: 56
          Trig: 38

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          • #6
            I hear you. I do similar things. Especially if I am stressing and reaching for that comfort food. It has come to the point now that after I eat the food I just get so horribly sick that honestly its not worth it. I feel like I am still not 'right' after I consumed a lot of wheat and sugar products on Friday night. However, I still want to be social.

            I'm moving back home in three weeks after spending two years abroad. I know there are going to be parties and celebrations when I am re-united with my friends and family. I made my transition to primal eating when I was overseas so they don't really know about my style of eating yet. I'm still trying to figure out how I should handle being presented with a lot of baked goods/party food made by my well meaning family and friends with out insulting them all. Should I eat a little (or try to) and deal with being sick afterwards for a few days? Or should I just not eat any of it and have them being offended but me in good health? I'm really jealous of the people who just get a little bloated and spiked blood sugar after eating grains and sugar. I feel like I have the flu if I eat a lot and have to stay in bed for a good two days after. If I eat a small or moderate amount I just get horrible headaches. Really not fun for me. I guess I have a quite severe sensitivity.
            Height: 5'2"
            Starting weight: 180lbs
            Current weight 130lbs

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            • #7
              GUN5LING3R, I feel your pain, or rather, I feel your cravings.

              I was just about to start a very similar thread, in fact, this is my second post ever, I joined for this very reason! I too am incapable of eating just one cookie, one chip or even just one piece of dark chocolate. I'll be doing so good-primal all week, craving chocolate so bad, so I have a piece of 88% dark chocolate (total Mark seal of approval) Then, before I know it, I'm sneaking to the store to buy a donut (or three) while my husband is at work (He is primal without fail) and there starts the downward spiral of cravings and depression, not to mention bloating and acne. I know all the reasons not to do it, but I still can't NOT do it!

              I get so frustrated with myself, I was hoping someone in a similar boat would have the miracle cure that I can't seem to figure out. Though after typing this all out, the obvious answer - no - the [I]only[I] answer has to be, just don't eat the crap, ever. done. period. end of story.

              But alas, it seems so impossible! Has anyone out there been able to quit the sweet stuff forever?

              I told my husband it's a good thing I've never tried crack.....
              Last edited by greenari; 08-17-2011, 05:09 PM. Reason: spelling error

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              • #8
                Originally posted by greenari View Post
                GUN5LING3R, I feel your pain, or rather, I feel your cravings.

                I was just about to start a very similar thread, in fact, this is my second post ever, I joined for this very reason! I too am incapable of eating just one cookie, one chip or even just one piece of dark chocolate. I'll be doing so good-primal all week, craving chocolate so bad, so I have a piece of 88% dark chocolate (total Mark seal of approval) Then, before I know it, I'm sneaking to the store to buy a donut (or three) while my husband is at work (He is primal without fail) and there starts the downward spiral of cravings and depression, not to mention bloating and acne. I know all the reasons not to do it, but I still can't NOT do it!

                I get so frustrated with myself, I was hoping someone in a similar boat would have the miracle cure that I can't seem to figure out. Though after typing this all out, the obvious answer - no - the [I]only[I] answer has to be, just don't eat the crap, ever. done. period. end of story.

                But alas, it seems so impossible! Has anyone out there been able to quit the sweet stuff forever?

                I told my husband it's a good thing I've never tried crack.....
                Hi, this was me. Down to a tee. Seriously, only thing that helped was going on the Leptin-reset Dr Kruse-style. I have done it 5 weeks now, and the last 4 birthday parties I attended, I didnt touch the sweets! Not even a taste, I just couldn't handle it, I felt so full from my breakfast and late lunch! I have been such a total sugar-junkie, and even though I did perfect PB during the week, my Saturdays would always explode into an orgy of cravings. No doubt it also massively slowed down my fat-loss. But look at the Leptin-reset if you want to sort yourself out. I'm glad I did, I'm no longer a slave to my cravings.

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                • #9
                  Tiger Lily posted some really good stuff about binge eating here: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread19847.html

                  Worth a look.

                  Sugar is like heroine in my opinion. Extremely addictive, and makes you crave it. I found that if I eat sugar and fat together (no grains) I don't get sugar cravings. If I eat wheat with no sugar, I don't get sugar cravings. HOWEVER, if I eat wheat and sugar together, oh boy. Also chocolate, unless its gourmet 80% chocolate, will make me binge eat everything. So buying those 80% chocolate bars are a no go for me, but 1' squares that cost like 3$ each from the chocolate specialty shop. (All hand made) I'm fine. Ingredients seem to be the same pretty much. Don't know why one triggers it and the other doesn't.
                  Height: 5'2"
                  Starting weight: 180lbs
                  Current weight 130lbs

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                  • #10
                    Oh! Sorry, from the thread title, I thought you were talking about my first marriage... but I digress.

                    Yeah, staying away from sugar isn't a big deal for me, but if I do have some, it gets to be an issue for at least a few days. Suddenly I'm craving foods that I hadn't cared about before. Sucks.
                    Durp.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the great feedback everyone. I really do appreciate hearing everyone's experiences and solutions. I don't get bloated or the carb flu but I get VERY depressed which leads to not wanting to leave the house. It really is crazy. When I am eating right I feel SO great and motivated. It is amazing what a bowl of pasta or ice cream will do to my mental status. That should be motivation enough. It really is nuts how one moment of weakness can lead me down such a dark path. But I will tell you this. Coming on here and reading the forums really helps me get my butt back in gear, and the support and feedback is just what I needed. Thanks everyone. MDA is such an excellent resource AND support group. Great bunch of people on here.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GUN5LING3R View Post
                        That's how I feel when I cave in and eat sugar or carbs! I actually get very depressed which leads me down the road to laziness and a terrible attitude/mood. I feel so energized and mentally positive when I avoid sugar/carbs but if I have just one bowl of ice cream I go off the deep end. It actually leads to more cravings. I have been Primal for quite awhile now with excellent results but if I go to a party and eat a little bit of sugar/carbs, it opens the flood gates and I crave more junk, get very lazy and depressed, and basically just make everyone around me miserable! I know that cheating once in awhile isn't the end of the world for most people but for me it seems to be. Anyone else out there have this problem or am I just a real nut job??
                        :raises hand vigorously while jumping up and down:

                        Yeah, just did this last week. Tuesday night I caved and ate a couple chocolate brownies... and continued to eat at least some junk for the next three days. I felt awful physically from late Tues night to Fri, depressed, apathetic, etc. And now I'm dealing with wanting carbs - which I hardly ever do when I'm clean.

                        For me the biggest problem is wheat. I can eat a bit of sugar (as in condiments) and be ok. Potatoes, no problemo. Rice, seems ok too. But wheat in any form, and the depression comes back with a vengeance. It sucks.
                        42 yo female; 5'8"
                        Oct 2009: 205 lbs
                        Dec 2010: 167 lbs
                        Current weight: 158 lbs (first time under 160 in 17 years!!!)
                        Goal weight: 145 lbs

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                        • #13
                          I crave sugar/crap daily! It seems to only hit at night because all day I can eat primally just fine, even without snacking, but once supper's over all I want is ice cream.....I've recently started taking Candida Clear in hopes that will help with some of these cravings. If I allow myself one bite, then next thing I know I'm headed to the grocery store to buy out their entire freezer.

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                          • #14
                            I don't think you're crazy for thinking this. I do think it's true that when people dig deep into primal and then fall off and have a cheat meal, a lot of the comfort issues they feel are in their head, but there are plenty of people out there who have destroyed their metabolisms overeating refined carbohydrate frankenfoods and processed vegetable oils that indulging in carbs makes them feel like crap. I can tell you to this day that if I were to wake up and eat half a pound of pasta, I'd want to fall asleep and feel like there was concrete in my gut. However, I have found a great way to get around this whole carb issues. I can eat easily 150-175g of carbs immediately after a heavy lift with no bad feeling at all. Not only do I not get tired, but I feel even better than normal. However, I limit my carbs to white rice and potatoes/sweet potatoes and once in awhile some canned, soaked black beans. Once or twice a month I'll eat a small quality soft serve ice cream - no more than a cup or two of ice cream - and it will not weigh me down at all and I feel great after, but custard is pretty low GI thanks to all that great dairy fat. I've been doing this for awhile now and I haven't had any negative issues. One of these days I want to try whole wheat pasta just to see how I would react but I'm too scared to! :P
                            Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                            • #15
                              Have you always been this way about carbs? Even if you have, I'd imagine that learning that 'carbs are bad' hasn't helped. If you are having cravings and binges, then you need to stop restricting and stop being afraid of what will happen if you eat certain things. You will probably find that you have a lot less interest in your son's food. You should not feel like you are 'giving in' when you eat what you are hungry for. Don't be so quick to think that your body is mistaken in telling you what it needs.

                              But I understand that changing your habits and your relationship with food can be next to impossible in an environment that isn't conducive to it, as this has been my main obstacle. I think it would be fair to ask for some more support in regaining your health. Your wife may never understand why you can't have just one cookie (in your current state of health), but she should have some faith that that fact is not due to gluttony or lack of self control, and that having to restrain yourself is stressful to you and to your body. The presence of those foods seems to be making you miserable and hampering your progress. I guess it depends on how much convenience is worth to them when it comes to food.

                              It doesn't sound like you have much support, and it seems like you are blaming yourself. The answer to this problem is not to pump up the willpower. As counter-productive as it might sound, I think you should stop trying so hard.

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