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    So my wife, who also works for uncle sam is just starting a new program can not afford to change over to a full on PB lifestyle. To much stress to little sleep, until it is over around Christmas. Is there a benefit to eating Primal on the weekends when she can come home if she is going back to SAD during the week?

    JohnR

  • #2
    As we often say here, play the cards you are dealt. Every little bit helps. But primal need not be expensive. If you tell us more, we can offer suggestions.
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    • #3
      The issue is time mostly and availability. She goes with rice and chicken for most dinners, but had a great deal of light-headed bouts when starting PB and having almost no carbs. I figured the stress plus the new lifestyle/eating habits was not a good combo for her.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JohnR View Post
        The issue is time mostly and availability. She goes with rice and chicken for most dinners, but had a great deal of light-headed bouts when starting PB and having almost no carbs. I figured the stress plus the new lifestyle/eating habits was not a good combo for her.
        She could try easing into it. Maybe shoot for 2 nights per week where she eats a primal dinner instead of chicken and rice. Then the next week 3 nights, etc. She could also sub in sweet or white potato in place of the rice to help get away from the grains yet continue with the carbs.
        Primal isn't necessarily low-carb, though if you have a lot of fat to lose it works best to keep carbs relatively low. 100g of carbs is actually quite a bit of vegetables. The occasional piece of fruit could be half of that though, so watch for that.
        The stress will cause problems on it's own and if she can get the way of eating started sooner all the better.
        People too weak to follow their own dreams will always try to discourage others.

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        • #5
          If your wife is open to doing a higher-carb "paleo," I'd recommend that to her. Potatoes, sweet potatoes, yams, white rice or sprouted brown rice, fruits, etc. are all whole foods and are far better than other high-carb junk foods. This may or may not help her lose weight (if that's even her goal), but then again, neither will the SAD.

          She could give this a try, and if it's still too much of a hassle, she can drop it until she finishes this program. Lifestyle stress is already enough; no need to further complicate it with diet stress.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JohnR View Post
            The issue is time mostly and availability. She goes with rice and chicken for most dinners, but had a great deal of light-headed bouts when starting PB and having almost no carbs. I figured the stress plus the new lifestyle/eating habits was not a good combo for her.
            better than only eating primal on the weekends is cooking primal on the weekends. i do this. i have one or two days a week where i go nuts and just cook up a ton of primal foods so i won't have to spend time cooking during the week. i go as far as cutting up veggies for my salad, grilling all the meat i might want, making large batches of chili or stew. prepping a meal takes me about five minutes most days...ten if i feel like cooking up an omelet.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by tarek View Post
              If your wife is open to doing a higher-carb "paleo," I'd recommend that to her. Potatoes, sweet potatoes, yams, white rice or sprouted brown rice, fruits, etc. are all whole foods and are far better than other high-carb junk foods. This may or may not help her lose weight (if that's even her goal), but then again, neither will the SAD.

              She could give this a try, and if it's still too much of a hassle, she can drop it until she finishes this program. Lifestyle stress is already enough; no need to further complicate it with diet stress.
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              • #8
                Thanks for the tips guys. About a month from now we will live in the same state again and I plan to try pre cooking and cutting as primal for her as I can, but including things like more fruit and some sweet/white potato to help with the light headedness. Hopefully that will also decrease the lifestyle stress if I can take care of some things (like food prep) for her.

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                • #9
                  Just throwing this out there, but greens are cheaper than chips. Squash is cheaper than buns. Broccoli is cheaper than cookies.

                  Primal is accessible for just about ever budget. If you're on food stamps, I have no clue if it is feasible. However, barring that - if it's too expensive, you're doing it wrong.

                  I cut out about $30 a week on groceries by switching.
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                  • #10
                    I'm all over the map about primal vs paleo vs slow carb, but there's more similarity then difference, I suppose.
                    With that caveat, I've also got a gig where I mostly work as I eat and don't have a lot of prep time and have completely changed my body composition over the last few months.

                    If getting lunch out, there's salad and chicken pretty much everywhere. If bringing lunch, takes 10 minutes or less to cook a package of chicken/fish and throw it over some greens. Really doesn't take more time then making a sandwich, and not really harder to pack or eat.

                    Probably does take more time then grabbing a slice of pizza, but it's not too tough to extract those 4 minutes from somewhere else.

                    Dinner's not necessarily harder either. I'm a TERRIBLE cook, but think of it this way. Take whatever you'd normally eat, and instead of the grain thing, have a veggie thing. Pretty easy. Instead of heating up pasta or rice to go with whatever else I'd normally eat, nuke some frozen veggies.

                    Slice and wok zuccini? Faster then pasta. Cheaper then good pasta. Way healthier. Holds sauce.
                    Nuke and chop cauliflower and wok? Works like rice. Probably faster then any of those 10 minute rices (always really takes 20 minutes, doesn't it?)

                    Restaurant? Tim Ferris has a magic line, that is absolutely magic, and responsible for a significant percentage of my weight loss in recent months
                    "Instead of the potatoes/rice/fries/pasta, can I just get more of the veggies?"

                    I've been freaking out about macro-nutrient ratios and things like that. But the big steps have been pretty cheap and easy.

                    Bet a little bit of fruit, and a little bit of nuts, will go a long way to feeling ok physically about letting go the starchy part of the meal.
                    The slow carb diet also ads a lot of beans. That was probably the crutch I used for a while to get me down to more paleo/primal.

                    Beans are cheap, filling, and at least better carbs then bread/rice. After a while, they were really easy for me to give up, too.

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                    • #11
                      if she is feeling light headed, it is important that she start adding in some more healthy fats to ease the adjustment for her body. Once I got into the mindset, I was amazed at how much simpler meal prep was for me and the family. Also good for the food budget.

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                      • #12
                        ^^^ THIS! When I dropped carbs, I didn't up my fat intake much more than I had been all along. I felt terrible. Now, adding a sufficient amount of fat calories (about 500...I dropped, by my best guess, 800 calories from carbs) I feel much better and after about 3 weeks of this, I can actually put down *significant* stretches of time not eating w/o feeling ridiculously hungry. Now, I tend to eat more when I finish up one of those stretches, but it's easy for me to make it "primal" friendly and the time when I'm not eating is NOT difficult at all.

                        It was a long, slow, and sometimes difficult process to get there...but adding fat calories REALLY helped make it something livable. Just the other day, I walked past a bowl of pretzely/chipy goodness in the common kitchen area here at work at a time when it had been about an 8 hour time period since eating with basically no effort at all.
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                        • #13
                          Maybe she could get her carbs from a different source instead of rice/grains. It's really easy to take a sweet potato to work and cook it in the microwave - a lot faster than cooking rice that's for sure. Maybe you could help her out by having pre cut and washed veggies and meat/hard boiled eggs in the fridge so all she has to do is grab a couple handfuls of veggies add the meat, and she has a perfectly healthy and primal dinner. You said she feels light headed from barely eating any carbs which is why it is super important to consumer enough veggies and a piece or two of fruit per day.

                          Try explaining to her that this type of diet will give her more energy and lower her stress.
                          I am an oatmeal LOVER but sometimes I found that after I ate a bowl for breakfast I was ready for bed again - my head would literally drop! It was crazy how much it effected me.

                          If she is still hesitant about switching to primal permanently, why don't you ask her to try it out just for a week or two without cheats and if she likes the results she can decide wether or not she wants to stick with it.

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                          • #14
                            Running face first into a brick wall twice a week > running face first into a brick wall daily.
                            I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by davem View Post
                              I cut out about $30 a week on groceries by switching.
                              Gotta agree with this. I work out in the field and start at 6am. I would grab a burrito on the way out to my work area, then that would make me hungry pretty quickly, so I'd stop at a convenience store for a snack around 10am. That was usually a frosted donut (or two) and Funyuns with a diet Coke. By noon I was jonesing for burgers and fries. So in 6 hours I had eaten a burrito, 2 burgers, a large fry, chips or donuts and 3 diet Cokes. Just pathetic, and it probably cost me around $15 before I even got home from work.

                              Now I pack a small cooler with boiled eggs, some leftover meat, bleu cheese stuffed olives, dill pickles and maybe a Lara Bar. Way cheaper and better for me anyway.
                              Durp.

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