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    i just tryed today to eat the 50 gramms of protein for breakfast how do people get that much in?

    i would say iam a quite hungry person, especially in the morning and i love meat. i had some horse meat with leeks and a mini banana in butter *yummi* and one hard boiled egg. this is around 40 gr. of protein, and i could not even finish the meat. left out meat worth of at least 10 gr. of protein, so probably had around 30gr.

    7/14: 156 lbs.
    weight in's:

    7/17: 153.5 lbs.
    7/18: 152.5 lbs.

    goalweight: 130 lbs.


  • #2
    I'm on the reset too, but I've never been able To eat a full 50 gr. I think I do about 40 and that keeps me full for about 6 hours. It's really hard to eat that much for breakfast!

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    • #3
      @Bettie, drop the leeks and banana. You don't really want to eat any carbs whatsoever at breakfast. Also when you cook your meat, you want to use coconut oil.
      Georgette

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      • #4
        Horse? Where did you get that? All the slaughter houses where shut down by the crazy bug and bunny counters...

        I totally understand where you are coming form though, its alot of protein. 4 eggs is just 24 grams! I think a flat 50 grams for everyone is a blanket statement - maybe that will work for men and mesomorphs but should be adjusted based on individual tolerance.

        Might be best to just ensure that the majority of your breakfast is protein and call it a day. Leaner protein should help also.

        Geostump - Per Protein Power, breakfast is the best time to have carbs as your body is more insulin sensitive in the morning. I also really don't see anything wrong with leeks of all things.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rayout View Post
          Horse? Where did you get that? All the slaughter houses where shut down by the crazy bug and bunny counters...

          I totally understand where you are coming form though, its alot of protein. 4 eggs is just 24 grams! I think a flat 50 grams for everyone is a blanket statement - maybe that will work for men and mesomorphs but should be adjusted based on individual tolerance.

          Might be best to just ensure that the majority of your breakfast is protein and call it a day. Leaner protein should help also.

          Geostump - Per Protein Power, breakfast is the best time to have carbs as your body is more insulin sensitive in the morning. I also really don't see anything wrong with leeks of all things.
          You can get horse meat easily in most countries and in some parts of the US.

          Check out - Jack Kruse and the leptin reset thread in the Nutrition forum. With the reset, you must eat 50g of protein for breakfast with little to no carbs. You're allowed as much carbs as 50g total for a day but should ideally keep it under 30. The idea of eating 50g of protein within 30 minutes of waking is this: It keeps you from wanting to snack in between meals and gorging on sugar and starches. You also want to space lunch minimally 5 hours after breakfast and dinner 5 hours after lunch but eat dinner 3 hours before bed. Leptin is the master hormone and if you have issues such as being insulin resistant, PCOS, hashimoto's and other autoimmune disorders you want to fix leptin first as all the other hormones that are out of whack will fall in line. If you are making yourself become leptin sensitive you will then become more insulin sensitive which is what we all want.

          I should know. I am IR and PCOS. I have pretty much cleared up the majority of my PCOS symptoms and my IR. Before the reset and while I was following primal, my average fasting blood glucose levels were around 120, they are now 104 which is fairly normal or close to normal.
          Georgette

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          • #6
            Make yourself a 6 egg steak omelette.
            Bam! 50g protein.

            if you have meat at dinner, save some for breakfast.

            50g protein is easy.
            --Trish (Bork)
            TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
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            • #7
              Originally posted by rayout View Post
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              Geostump - Per Protein Power, breakfast is the best time to have carbs as your body is more insulin sensitive in the morning. I also really don't see anything wrong with leeks of all things.
              Protein Power is a good book, but this is about the 6-8 week leptin reset, which starts out the day with 50g protein and minimal carbs.

              The 50g protein is a good target. Obviously if you do that and you still fill full at 2 pm and think you did too much breakfast, adjust it a bit. The world won't come to an end.

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              • #8
                thanks for your answers!

                the breakfast today was more of a brunch, i normally don't cook veg and fruits in the morning!

                well i will try to go as near as possible to the 50gr. maybe i have to work my way upů will have a proteinshake + some meat or eggs.


                geostump, i have pcos myself, good to hear that the leptin reset helped you with that. oh and i do use coconut oil a lots but i like butter too. i get a really fresh raw butter from a farmer, its so delicious!

                ragout, horse you get here (switzerland) everywhere, i love it! but when i was in the u.k. i felt bad to even talk about eating horses, the english love them too much i guess :-)

                Dr. Bork, i think a 6 egg steak omlette in the morning and i would feel sick all day. i can't really eat that much in one meal, especially not eggs. even my 150gr. horse steak had only 30gr. no way to eat 1,5 of them!

                7/14: 156 lbs.
                weight in's:

                7/17: 153.5 lbs.
                7/18: 152.5 lbs.

                goalweight: 130 lbs.

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                • #9
                  count me as one of those who get the willies at the thought of eating horse. I don't know why b/c i'm not really a "horse-y" person at all, actually i'm somewhat intimidated by them having tried to ride one a long time ago, but i just couldn't really knowingly enjoy eating horsemeat. It would have to be a survival type circumstance. Horses just look too noble or something for me to consider them as food. Even tho realistically, they're just meat bags like everything else.
                  Last edited by Catherine; 08-14-2011, 12:12 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by geostump View Post
                    I should know. I am IR and PCOS. I have pretty much cleared up the majority of my PCOS symptoms and my IR. Before the reset and while I was following primal, my average fasting blood glucose levels were around 120, they are now 104 which is fairly normal or close to normal.
                    Congrats!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DFH View Post
                      Protein Power is a good book, but this is about the 6-8 week leptin reset, which starts out the day with 50g protein and minimal carbs.
                      What is the role breakfast in the leptin reset? The high protein, and no carbs? In a few days I'm going to be living and buying groceries on my own and I would like to not be blindly spending tons of money on meat, then cooking it and choking it down every morning.

                      I know this question has probably been answered but as this thread* is so long and fast moving I haven't read through all of it. I keep getting tiny bits and pieces of why this works but it's all lacking context.

                      *edit: 300+ page leptin thread
                      Last edited by weird fish; 08-14-2011, 10:11 PM.

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                      • #12
                        It's easy to get in the protein if you mentally shift away from eggs for breakfast. An 8 oz burger or a couple of large sausage links do it. Also, if you can make it to lunch without hunger on less protein I Believe Dr K has implied it is OK for you to cut back on the protein.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Adrianag View Post
                          It's easy to get in the protein if you mentally shift away from eggs for breakfast. An 8 oz burger or a couple of large sausage links do it. Also, if you can make it to lunch without hunger on less protein I Believe Dr K has implied it is OK for you to cut back on the protein.
                          ^This. Two hamburger patties are easy to eat, as is 1/2 pound of ground beef. Or go for less beef, cook it and scramble in some eggs. Perhaps it is because I am a dude, but eating 50G of protein for breakfast is cake.

                          I tend to rotate meats by the week. One week steak, the next pork, this week is chicken thighs. Buy a big, bulk, family pack then chow on it all week. Works for me.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bettie View Post
                            Dr. Bork, i think a 6 egg steak omlette in the morning and i would feel sick all day. i can't really eat that much in one meal, especially not eggs. even my 150gr. horse steak had only 30gr. no way to eat 1,5 of them!
                            How bout 8 scrambled eggs? That's pretty darn close to 50g. Throw in 4 slices of bacon & you're there. That was my breakfast today. Yum!
                            Have not been hungry since breakfast, and it's dinner time
                            --Trish (Bork)
                            TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
                            http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
                            FOOD PORN BLOG! http://theprimaljunkfoodie.blogspot.com

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                            • #15
                              i really struggle with that breakfast thing. was not even able to drink my whey shake this morning, so i had some nuts... but felt sick anyway, lowcarb-flu maybe? it was a lot's of crappy food the last few days, so no suprise really!

                              will try burgers and ground beef, thats something i always crave for...i probably just have to work my way up and find the right protein source. eggs are really not a option, as much as i like them 2-3 are my absolutly max.

                              7/14: 156 lbs.
                              weight in's:

                              7/17: 153.5 lbs.
                              7/18: 152.5 lbs.

                              goalweight: 130 lbs.

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