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  • #16
    Too much alcohol, meat and fat. Eat more raw fruits and veg.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by otzi View Post
      Are you 100% it's gout? The only way to tell is to get your uric acid level tested and/or examine some of the fluid in the joint for uric acid crystals.
      Yeah, best to check for the crystals. My understanding is that elevated blood uric acid levels don't always correspond to gout or even gout flares for that matter.

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      • #18
        Hey, Thanks for your help. I went to the doctors on wednesday. It was quite difficult as im currently on a study term abroad, in finland so not many of the other people speak english. After nearly punching the doctor when he repeatedly put pressure on the worst part... he gave me an antibiotic incase they may have been an infection. I also bought some extra ibuprofen while at the chemist.

        Now this is where I am slightly confused. Do any of you guys have a particular area on your big toe where the pain is very intense when pressure is applied? The reason i am asking is literally as soon as I took the first antibiotic the swelling started to reduce quite drastically. The medicine is called "kefexin 750mg", im sure that this may be the finnish name, i tried looking online but only got finnish results. As far as i was made aware, this would only help any infection in the area and would not help the gout at all. The extreme pain i felt even when sitting or in bed went but i am back to this sore, not so painful big toe, and in particular on the side of the toe where the joint protrudes slightly. this part is still slightly swollen in comparison to my left foot and can be extremely painful when pressure is applied inwards.

        I am not too sure I maybe blood tests will tell me if it is gout or not. Hopefully.

        I understand the situation that primal can lead to gout but only if one is over indulgent in particular foods, i am 100% sure that i have not eaten excess red meat, shellfish, etc. Well not more than normal, maybe a few times a month. I have been keeping food journals for most of the time I have been primal and there is not consistant evidence that could trigger this attack, I am starting to link there may be an underlying problem with my joint or some kind of damage to the foot. I will keep you updated. Just like to say thanks for taking the time to respond, it means a lot.

        I am just very annoyed because I had planned to start my strength training which has to be pushed back! gutted!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kgp11 View Post
          Hey, Thanks for your help. I went to the doctors on wednesday. It was quite difficult as im currently on a study term abroad, in finland so not many of the other people speak english. After nearly punching the doctor when he repeatedly put pressure on the worst part... he gave me an antibiotic incase they may have been an infection. I also bought some extra ibuprofen while at the chemist.

          Now this is where I am slightly confused. Do any of you guys have a particular area on your big toe where the pain is very intense when pressure is applied? The reason i am asking is literally as soon as I took the first antibiotic the swelling started to reduce quite drastically. The medicine is called "kefexin 750mg", im sure that this may be the finnish name, i tried looking online but only got finnish results. As far as i was made aware, this would only help any infection in the area and would not help the gout at all. The extreme pain i felt even when sitting or in bed went but i am back to this sore, not so painful big toe, and in particular on the side of the toe where the joint protrudes slightly. this part is still slightly swollen in comparison to my left foot and can be extremely painful when pressure is applied inwards.

          I am not too sure I maybe blood tests will tell me if it is gout or not. Hopefully.

          I understand the situation that primal can lead to gout but only if one is over indulgent in particular foods, i am 100% sure that i have not eaten excess red meat, shellfish, etc. Well not more than normal, maybe a few times a month. I have been keeping food journals for most of the time I have been primal and there is not consistant evidence that could trigger this attack, I am starting to link there may be an underlying problem with my joint or some kind of damage to the foot. I will keep you updated. Just like to say thanks for taking the time to respond, it means a lot.

          I am just very annoyed because I had planned to start my strength training which has to be pushed back! gutted!
          The antibiotic they gave you is called 'Cefalexin' in the US. Maybe you needed it, maybe not.

          I used to have gout really bad. First attack was in 1999 after a month of Atkin's Diet. I was really pissed-off. Quit the diet, but the gout stayed on. At first it was once or twice a year, then 3-4 times a year, then towards the end, every 4-6 weeks! I was either in pain or recovering in time to have another attack.

          I tried to do everything right...no seafood, liver, game meat. I was eating tons of bread, candy, soda, beer, fast food. I went full-on Primal Blueprint and haven't had so much as a hint of gout in 2-1/2 years.

          I eat seafood and liver almost every day. I drink alcohol very rarely, eat no bread or flour, no sugar/candy/soda. I completely reversed my diet and my gout went away.

          Where are you with eating? Ketogenic diets can raise uric acid levels and bring on gout in people likely to get gout--are you eating 100-200g of carbs per day, preferably from rice/potatoes, not so much from fruit/sugar? Do you drink alcohol? Plenty of water? Are you on any other medicine?

          When eating, think "anti-inflammatory". Plenty of fish, berries, veggies. No fried foods. No grains.

          As to location of pain, you are describing exactly where my pain was. Not really in the big toe, but the first knuckle joint on the foot below the big toe. Pressing in from the side was very painful. Also, standing walking made the pain a little better, putting foot up took the pain away, but when you'd stand after--it was terrible.

          A typical gout attack for me lasted about 3-4 days with pain worst on day 3, then a 4-5 day recovery to no pain. After I started taking Colchisine, attacks would last 1-2 days with pain worst on first day, but attacks came more frequently.

          I was also on high blood pressure medicine which I quit after losing weight, some have said those can cause gout.

          Good luck!

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          • #20
            Hi Karl

            I know what the pain is like, my toe joint has now fused and I cant bend it far and the pain is always there.

            I see you posted nearly a year ago!!!!!

            Hows the gout now?

            What helps me is having lots of olive oil and Vit C, this makes the pain go 95%, I can then walk properly, but if I start to run, its not long before I have to stop.
            Cutting out alcohol, any processed food, eating good quality fish and meat moderately.

            Ginger tea, made fresh with cinnamon, mint, lemon grass. Ginger is anti inflammation

            Having drunk fruit juice, may have been the cause of gout!

            Over the next week, make a note of everything you are eating and drinking and let us know on here.

            And we see if we can help you.

            Its will take time of cutting out foods and reintroduce, but is worth it and better than taking any medicine.

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            • #21
              Eat fresh cherries.
              Height: 5'2"
              Starting weight: 180lbs
              Current weight 130lbs

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              • #22
                My gout experience...

                I've only had 3 episodes of gout in my life. About every 5 years or so starting a decade ago there has been a flare up. The first two were painful beyond my ability to describe. Not fun at all! The most recent was last week. I've been primal for a year. My response was to drink lots of water. A 16oz. glass every couple of hours. I'd add real salt, potassium, magnesium and a bit of baking soda to the water or alternately a couple of Tbs. of apple cider vinegar. I did have to pee a lot, even through the night. But I'm just delighted that the flare up was very mild compared to past experiences and in 4 days the symptoms were gone. From reading the threads on gout I see that everyone has some different trigger and remedy. This is just mine and maybe it will help someone as they cope with this painful affliction.

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