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    Hello all!

    I am a 36 year old healthy guy, who because of a high carb diet all of my life, have a bit of an insulin issue... Blood sugar crashes, etc... I have never been able to stay on the low carb diets, as I have always been moody, and hungry.. After 20 years of killing myself in the gym and not getting the results that I want, I am confident that I need to stay on a low carb diet for not only dropping weight, but also just for good health. I am determined to make this work, and look forward to my body switching over to burning fat for fuel... I have a solid 15 to 20 pounds that I can lose, and ask for some help with my diet, as I'm still hungry all of the time. After I eat 7 whole eggs, fried in butter, with an orange, I'm starving within 40 minutes.... Why is that? Not enough heavy protein? For another meal, I had about a half pound of meatloft, with a LOT of green beans, with two tablespoons of flaxseed oil, and a few strawberrie's with whipcream. Again, starving within an hour... Why are these meals not filling me up? It's been two weeks, and I appreciate any info!! Thanks!

  • #2
    Hello Sartori75,

    I would definitely drop the fruit and dairy to get you situated with the PB. After a couple of weeks you may want to try one fruit (not oranges) probably blueberries and see if the craving return.

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    • #3
      Hello Sartori75,

      I would definitely drop the fruit and dairy to get you situated with the PB. After a couple of weeks you may want to try one fruit (not oranges) probably blueberries and see if the craving return.

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      • #4
        too much fruit and whipped cream(ok if you make it yourself) , not enough fat (i.e meatloaf meal, needs to be more fatty)

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        • #5
          Maybe you do need to eat more. Maybe you are just more hungry some days and need the food. I'm a middle aged female with a desk job and I can eat a half pound of meat in a meal some days. Is that a bad thing? If you can eat the volume and not gain weight, do you care? Two weeks in, your body is still adjusting. Being hungry before the meal is good. Being hungry after the meal means you didn't eat enough.

          Here is a question - where are the vegetables? Of course, you are only highlighting two meals but it looks as if you are eating meat and fruit. Mark eats 6-11 servings of vegetables a day. How much is a lot of green beans? 1 cup? One cup of veggies with a 1/2 pound of meat seems a bit low on the veggies. How many raw veggies do you eat? The nutrient dense and nutrients you can't get from meat, full of fiber which should help you feel full. It's not just about meat - hunters and gatherers

          Go eat more real food.
          My primal journal that I don't update enough:
          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33293.html

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          • #6
            Where are the fats? A major component of PB is fat. And it helps you feel full.

            This is NOT just "low carb." It's not adkins, it's not south beach, etc. It's a very specific method.

            First step is to purchase this-- you'll understand why your meatloaf and strawberries are not doing the trick:

            Amazon.com: The Primal Blueprint: Reprogram your genes for effortless weight loss, vibrant health, and boundless energy (Primal Blueprint Series) (9780982207703): Mark Sisson: Books

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            • #7
              because of a high carb diet all of my life, have a bit of an insulin issue... Blood sugar crashes, etc... I have never been able to stay on the low carb diets, as I have always been moody, and hungry..
              ... Umm, hello? Isn't the answer obvious? You asnwered your question on the first paragraph of your own question. You can't just flip a switch overnight and magically not get hungry anymore! You didn't become insulin resistant overnight, and you won't heal it overnight.

              For now, focus on eating real food. You don't have to eat very low carb! Eat high carb vegetables if you need to! You don't have to inhale a carton of eggs!
              For now, focus on eating when you are hungry, and stop when you feel satisfied. Repeat when you're hungry again. Just make sure to keep the food primal! Just doing this will make you lose weight, if you need to.

              If you do this, eventually you will be able to go for longer periods of time without feeling hunger. It could take days, weeks, or months. At that point, start reducing the high carb vegetables if you want to.
              Last edited by abstractpersona; 07-19-2011, 10:10 AM.
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              Updating my journal again after a 2 year break.

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              • #8
                When I first went primal I was hungry all the time, too. I just ate primal foods. As my body was re-setting, I eventually did not feel the need to eat as much. I ate nuts, apples, berries, jerky, anything primal. I felt like I was starving to death in the beginning. I think your body will reset itself after a while. I was still losing weight, despite all the fruit and nuts (and I ate tons!).

                Keep at it and your body should reset itself soon.

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                • #9
                  If your hunger after meals is prolonged (over 30 min) and increasing in intensity no matter how much you seem to eat, try IF or Warrior eating schedule. I know it sounds counter-intuitive. But that's the only thing that helped me to deal with extreme hunger issues. Somehow it seems that anything i eat in the morning only teases my appetite and pushes me to seek and devour more food. If I ignore hunger in the am, the hunger spikes are very short (under 15 min) and not intense. My stomach doesn't even rumble any more, and it used to sing songs so loudly (and that's after 3 breakfasts!) it was embarising. I even experienced pains in my stomach I was so ravenous, and I woudl wake up at 2 am starved like I haven't seen food for a week. Now I am good on a cup of broth and a good dinner.
                  My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
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                  • #10
                    Thank you all for your feedback... I am a very active guy, who works out often and I have a very demanding job, working for 12 hours a day. I'm not sure if cutting out the fruit, would leave me with enough carbs. I'm trying to keep them at 50 now. I actually do very well with oranges. Its interesting thought, that after that meal last night with the meatloft, and greenbeans, strawberries and whipcream, that I was straving within an hour. Than I had two handfuls of almonds, still starving. An hour later, I had a protein shake, with some coconut oil, still hungry. I was so hungry that I couldnt fall asleep, and had to have a few handfuls of sunflower and pumpkin seeds. Still couldnt fall asleep, and had to have a protein bar..... How long does it take to switch the body from being insulin resistant? What else would you reccomend adding to my diet??

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                    • #11
                      How long have you been eating Primal? It takes a while for it to kick in sometimes, especially if you have been eating crap for a long time. For me, it took about 3 weeks before I could trust my stomach to tell me when it needed food, as opposed to when it thought I needed sugar

                      Also, is there a chance that you could be hungry in your mind and not in your belly? You know what I mean - where your stomach isn't growling or anything, just that you really want to eat?
                      Durp.

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                      • #12
                        You didn't specify your timeline in your post, however I know that when I first switched to primal, I went through a period where I was completely unable to satisfy my hunger.

                        I'm no nutritionist, but looking back I think what happens is your body signals hunger, to which you respond by eating (primal foods). However, your body is lying to you. Your body is saying "I want food", but what it really wants is carbs. I spent at least three days eating like crazy, literally stuffing myself to the point where I felt bloated, and I still felt hungry. Things settled down fairly quickly and I was able to resume eating normal quantities after a few days.

                        From personal experience I would recommend the "stuff yourself silly to prevent failure" method - you'll feel back about it while you are doing it, but you have long-term goals that are more important.

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                        • #13
                          Where's the fat? Where's the veggies?

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                          • #14
                            Maybe meals are too high in protein which can elicit an insulin response too and then hunger after.

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                            • #15
                              I have been on and off this way of eating for many years, and always had issues with it. Such as, always being hungry. I think I may just need to incorporate more veggies, and fat.. But, after eating a half pound meatloft, two cups of greenbeans, and two tablespoons of flaxseed oil, why would I still be hungry? Maybe I would have done better with half of a avocado with the meatloft. I am on second week of low carb again, and will just stay on it this time, until my body adapts. I have heard that some people on this site need some potato, or yams to feel satisfied, no sure if my body is one of those... It seems that everytime that I add the carbs back into my diet, I start to have blood sugar issues, and crashing again. I think I just need to stay on this diet for a few months and see what happens... Any other feedback would be appreciated . Thanks!

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