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    Hypothetically, if your doing Whole30 (no dairy, no grains, no legumes, no alcohol, no sugar) and you mess up a meal (for example, find out your spice has sugar in it, or something like that) do you have to start all over or do you tack on extra days?

    I ask because hubby just left for a biz trip and he has to basically eat out for three days. He's done it low carb before, but is worried about getting soy or sugar in things without realizing it. He's going to try hard but I know they cram as many meetings and stuff as possible in the time he's there and his hotel doesn't have a kitchen. He's going to stop at a grocery and get fruit and try and find a safe jerky but that's not going to be enough to keep him filled.

    Tips? Advice? Is he going to have to start Whole30 all over?
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    Whole30 is a personal thing, so a personal choice. I've gotten off the train, I just got right back on the next meal and didn't worry about it. Just do your best and forget the rest. =)

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    • #3
      It's not like you have to obey the rules or else you die.

      That said, the purpose (or at least a major purpose) of doing the Whole30 is to elicit a psychological change concerning your relationship to food. I would imagine that this effect is rather hard to come by if you don't do the full thirty days.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Primal Fist View Post
        It's not like you have to obey the rules or else you die.
        Well, gosh, that sure seems to be the impression the folks on the site give you! Here's what they say:

        "The only way this will work is if you give it the full thirty days, no cheats, slips or special occasions. This isn’t Whole9 playing the tough guy. This is a FACT, born of education and experience. You need such a small amount of any of these inflammatory foods to break the healing cycle – one bite of a friend’s pizza, one splash of milk in your coffee, one lick of the spoon mixing the cake batter within the 30 day period and you’ve broken the “reset” button. You must commit to the full program, exactly as written. Anything less and we make no claims as to your results, or the chances of your success."

        I think the concerns of the OP are valid, if one takes this as the truth (I'm fairly new, so will not presume to offer an opinion). Clearly the people who run the Whole30 program DO think even 1 bite of a forbidden food will derail the whole thing!
        Last edited by honeypig; 07-13-2011, 12:08 PM. Reason: clarity

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        • #5
          Yes, Melissa and Dallas certainly do believe that, partly for the reasons I stated. My point was that tacking on extra days or restarting come to the same thing in the end, so it really doesn't matter as long as you are doing 30 days.
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          • #6
            If you didn't know it was there, it wasn't there.
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            • #7
              That's why I don't do things like Whole 30. Trying to be perfect just creates stress and I'm sure the cortisol defeats the whole 30 purpose anyway!

              I gave up trying to be perfect a long time ago. This time around I'm settling for 'better'.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by honeypig View Post
                Well, gosh, that sure seems to be the impression the folks on the site give you! Here's what they say:

                "The only way this will work is if you give it the full thirty days, no cheats, slips or special occasions. This isn’t Whole9 playing the tough guy. This is a FACT, born of education and experience. You need such a small amount of any of these inflammatory foods to break the healing cycle – one bite of a friend’s pizza, one splash of milk in your coffee, one lick of the spoon mixing the cake batter within the 30 day period and you’ve broken the “reset” button. You must commit to the full program, exactly as written. Anything less and we make no claims as to your results, or the chances of your success."

                I think the concerns of the OP are valid, if one takes this as the truth (I'm fairly new, so will not presume to offer an opinion). Clearly the people who run the Whole30 program DO think even 1 bite of a forbidden food will derail the whole thing!
                I think finding out there's a bit of sugar in spice is a bit different than licking batter or having a bite of pizza.

                I dunno, I'd still consider myself to have accomplished the whole 30 if found out there was a bit of sugar in the rub used on my ribs, for example (though how would you even know if you ask them beforehand?)


                And to answer the question about what I'd do if aI fall off; well, I'd liek to say I'd start over again, but I'm sure if I was further along than the 4-day mark, I'd probably just quit then and there.....not very resilient, eh?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fufonzo View Post
                  I think finding out there's a bit of sugar in spice is a bit different than licking batter or having a bite of pizza.

                  I dunno, I'd still consider myself to have accomplished the whole 30 if found out there was a bit of sugar in the rub used on my ribs, for example (though how would you even know if you ask them beforehand?)


                  And to answer the question about what I'd do if aI fall off; well, I'd liek to say I'd start over again, but I'm sure if I was further along than the 4-day mark, I'd probably just quit then and there.....not very resilient, eh?
                  I'm not sure how a little bit of sugar in a spice is different from a little bit of sugar in 1 lick of cake batter or having a splash of milk...either way, the amount you are getting is truly miniscule. Unless the individual doing the program strongly suspects or knows they have a major intolerance to lactose, gluten, etc., I don't think most of us are that sensitive and would be affected by that. But whatever. As others have mentioned, the stress of being "perfect" for those 30 days while life (which is going to be less than perfectly controlled) is happening is very likely going to offset at least some of the benefits.

                  But as always, to each their own....

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fiona View Post
                    Whole30 is a personal thing, so a personal choice. I've gotten off the train, I just got right back on the next meal and didn't worry about it. Just do your best and forget the rest. =)
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                    • #11
                      I think the point of the whole 30 being so strict is proving to yourself that you can do it not proving to someone else. So your husband has to make his own decision. Did he do the absolute best that was humanly possible under the circumstances? By his own definition. If so, chill. If he knows on some level he could have looked harder for food alternatives or skipped a meal instead but just took the easy food, then he should restart the 30 day clock. Or not bother with a whole 30 in the first place.

                      Personally, I think the whole 30 is a good tool for people getting started but it's the way I eat all of the time so it's just habit. Putting a clock on it just seems kind of artificial.

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                      • #12
                        Starting over on the Whole 30 thing almost sounds like punishment, which is not supposed to be the idea. Doing Whole 30 is so you can adjust your body and tastes to the new way of eating, to show you how much improvement you get, and to really learn how to eat this way.

                        If you binge on a package of chocolate chip cookies and whole wheat toast, then yeah, you screwed up. Just get back on the horse and learn from that lesson. If you accidentally eat something with crap in it, then you still screwed up, but it's understandable, not the end of the world, and now you learned about being careful too.

                        Yes, you're only doing Whole 30 for 30 days, but you're going to be eating this way for the rest of your life, so a meal or two is seriously not a big deal (no matter what someone on the internet may tell you).

                        Originally posted by belinda View Post
                        That's why I don't do things like Whole 30. Trying to be perfect just creates stress and I'm sure the cortisol defeats the whole 30 purpose anyway!

                        I gave up trying to be perfect a long time ago. This time around I'm settling for 'better'.
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                        • #13
                          Thanks everyone! I think he's worried because its been so hard on him, yet he's starting to see and taste differences when this trip came out of the blue. It's too good an opportunity to miss out on, but it means that he's pretty tied down on where he can eat. When I was looking online at steak houses I found a lot of places use sugar and soy oil in the marinade. So, he wasn't sure if he could stay perfect. We are 9 days in and feeling great. Thought we'd found the perfect timing (no work trips, no birthdays) but this trip came out of nowhere. I know they work long hours and order in a lot of fast food. He's going to try and have jerky and fruit on him at all times and then once they are done, no matter how late, hit a steak place for a big slab of protein.

                          Reading the website I couldn't tell if you ate one of the forbidden foods what you were supposed to do. Neither of us have any food intolerance or problems-I don't feel much different than when I was eating primal with dairy and the occasional dark chocolate/wine. He still feels tired occasionally but he went from eating SAD to Whole30 and with all the work stress I don't think he's sleeping well at night.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by iniQuity View Post
                            If you didn't know it was there, it wasn't there.
                            LOL! If only this was true...
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                            • #15
                              It all boils down to his own decision and thoughts on the whole30. If he wanted to keep to it, he would. Might not be easy, but if there is a grocery store there he could stick to it. What it sounds like is he wants to go off it while there because he wants to eat out and he'll be busy and it's just easier. I'd just be real about what it is and if that is what he wants to do just do it and start back on when he's done.

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