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  • #16
    i like the orthodox christians. they keep it real

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bosnic View Post
      Define your religion, don't let your religion define you.
      I'm not sure why you wrote that as this post is not specifically about religion but about how to do a religious fast optimally.
      Are you orthodox with that surname or you're Croatian and they aren't orthodox?

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      • #18
        Oh, yes, how to live primal during the fasting periods. How dreadful! LOL! First, and foremost, you should really talked to your spiritual father. As you should know, the fasting rules are relaxed for the elderly and those with health issues. Even then, many priests would relaxed to a somewhat large extent the fasting rules to some who do not fall into these categories (like those who are new to Orthodoxy, etc). It all depends on the Priest, the parish, and the jurisdiction. Remember, while the fasting rules are the "letter of the law", one must keep in mind the "spirit of the law". Connect with your spiritual advisor and do what he says. Although for unity, Orthodoxy have "basic rules" on all fasting periods, variation in local customs do exist.

        For example, I belong to a Russian Orthodox parish, and the strictness of the fast are relaxed to the extent that non-olive oils are permitted during Lent. On this note, Wine and Oil (Olive Oil) are allowed on Saturday and Sunday from the second to the sixth week of Lent. Sometimes my spiritual father allow "fish" on Saturday and Sundays.

        So my "fat" sources during Lent are Olive Oil (on the days above), Coconut Oil, etc, Avocados, nuts and Coconut milk. Since shellfish are allowed on all days, I can get by with 1 gram of protein a day (but boy are they expensive, so I try to hunt down places that sell them in bunk and cheap)

        It is certainty hard following the Orthodox Lent while letting go of eggs, dairy, fish and meat, but one can be "primal" even on such severe restrictions.

        Hope this helps!
        Last edited by Zed; 10-30-2011, 01:12 AM.

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        • #19
          Adherents.com: Largest Religious Bodies
          There are many different estimates on how many of us there are, but this is a fairly good one, IMO. There are a lot of us.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Jimcbrooklyn View Post
            Adherents.com: Largest Religious Bodies
            There are many different estimates on how many of us there are, but this is a fairly good one, IMO. There are a lot of us.
            Sorry, I loaded this page and the most recent post I saw at first was the guy saying he'd never met an Orthodox Christian! Probably seems non sequitur...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bosnic View Post
              Define your religion, don't let your religion define you.
              Another discussion entirely; suffice it to say, as the OP, I'm quite happy letting my faith define me

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              • #22
                I found fasting incredibly easy during Lent simply by being primal - so easy it was almost like cheating as it was quite bearable. High fat is your friend.

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                • #23
                  I guess my big issue is really re:Great Lent/Nativity Fast, etc. Wed Fri=No big deal, especially with IF, something I've practice on and off for a while. Basically, I just eat shellfish on wed or fri, and one of the least of all evil grains or potatoes on the other one, and fast the rest of the day. I'm totally OK with going coconut/avocado crazy during lent, and I did last year (even in Russia, where coconut products can be hard to come by, and avocados are....weird.), but I get concerned about the protein, especially because I play, basically, 3 sports (I'm a college baseball coach, I play in a men's amateur hockey league, and I own a small Crossfit gym that I train at) and am incredibly active. Add this to 3 little kids, and sleep gets hard to come by, which, combined with such low protein, starts turning into cortisol nightmare zone.

                  The big questions for me are, do any of you guys make significant concessions on things like Brown Rice, Quinoa, Buckwheat, Beans, Chickpeas, Lentils and potatoes? When I'm not fasting, I'll eat, in a given day, upwards of 4 eggs, 4+pints of raw milk/kefir, and 2+lbs of meat, so the dropoff is fairly extreme.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by wildwabbit View Post
                    I found fasting incredibly easy during Lent simply by being primal - so easy it was almost like cheating as it was quite bearable. High fat is your friend.
                    Care to elaborate?

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                    • #25
                      People eating things and calling it "fasting" ITT.
                      You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                      • #26
                        fast 2 (fst)
                        intr.v. fast·ed, fast·ing, fasts
                        1. To abstain from food.
                        2. To eat very little or abstain from certain foods, especially as a religious discipline.
                        n.

                        1. The act or practice of abstaining from or eating very little food.
                        2. A period of such abstention or self-denial.

                        [Middle English fasten, from Old English fæstan; see past- in Indo-European roots.]

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                        • #27
                          Yeah, yeah. It would be a heck of a lot easier to just eat nothing. Then you wouldn't have to worry about being "primal." Plus you'd be all hardcore.
                          You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Grumpy Caveman View Post
                            Yeah, yeah. It would be a heck of a lot easier to just eat nothing. Then you wouldn't have to worry about being "primal." Plus you'd be all hardcore.
                            That's true, 47 days of being that hardcore would be a great way to lose weight as well. Decomposition sheds a lot of pounds :-)

                            I am thinking of doing the Nativity Fast Kitavan style as the article linked earlier suggested but I can't seem to find any recipe collection, anyone have a link to something like that?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jimcbrooklyn View Post
                              The big questions for me are, do any of you guys make significant concessions on things like Brown Rice, Quinoa, Buckwheat, Beans, Chickpeas, Lentils and potatoes? When I'm not fasting, I'll eat, in a given day, upwards of 4 eggs, 4+pints of raw milk/kefir, and 2+lbs of meat, so the dropoff is fairly extreme.
                              I only eat potatoes regularly, because I am lean and active (it's also a good source of complete protein), but I don't over do it. I also buy a protein powder (rice) and add it to my daily smoothie during Great Lent/Nativity Fast. I usually do it with 3/4 cup of coconut milk, 2 small bananas (or a combination of fruits), and cinnamon; so that really up my fat, protein and calories.

                              I am happy with my eating plans for Great Lent/Nativity Fast. Sure, I missed the eggs, dairy, and meat, but it is not the end of the world. Now when these fasting periods end, I commit the sin of gluttony (only to call my spiritual father and tell him "I am going to confession. I see you soon")

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                              • #30
                                Hello Primal Orthodox Family! I am just now reviving my primal lifestyle I started a year ago. The fast is what killed it for me last time. But this year is a new leaf and I am going to try and do both the complete orthodox fast AND the primal lifestyle.

                                Any suggestions on breakfast items?

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