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    Today Mercola is pushing Irvingia gabonensis for leptin sensitivity etc. Snake oil or valuable supplement?

    Apparently there are lots of scam Irvingia products out there. I'm inclined to think Mercola's does at least contain the real stuff. Expensive, of course. Any thoughts?
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    The supplement of the month club, IMHO.

    Irvingia gabonensis: IN-credible weight loss from an African tree?

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    • #3
      Jury still out.
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      • #4
        When the researcher who owns the product rights is the only one publishing results, it's time to be suspicious! Also, a perusal of Google Scholar shows that of the 21 papers that cited the 2009 paper, none were peer reviewed journals. Just bloggers and the like.

        Tom Venuto has an interesting article and he runs the numbers for you. If this stuff does what it allegedly does, it would have to raise your metabolism an extra 1400 calories per day.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
          Isn't this author the same guy that was bagging on Paleo the other day?

          His rebuttal is not very convincing. It's based on calorie theory. He's probably just whining because the product is not part of his own program.

          I don't know if this Irvingia gabonensis works or not. It's possible, but it could be nonsense too. Time will tell.

          I use a supplement for insulin resistance called maitake SX that comes from a mushroom. You could argue that this is just the supplement of the month too, but it does seem to work.

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          • #6
            Venuto Missed the Point of that One Research Study

            ...in that study was specifically addressing leptin resistance and, as such, attributed the reported weight loss to the treating of LR, as opposed to any increase in metabolism.

            Leptin resistance is a much not understood condition that, until now, has only been treated using insulin resistance/diabetes 2 drugs called Byetta and Symlin.

            I have LR, it's a huge PITA, it means that, having "acquired" it I went from being a skinny tall person to a fat tall person by eating very modestly and exercising like a loon.

            I had about 8 years of chronic under feeding because not matter how little or much I ate or how much I exercised or didn't, I could gain 10-12 pounds in a week on about 700 calories a day. I am now considered by the endos I consulted to be choronically leptin reisitant.

            I started injecting Byetta which worked for a while (I could eat every second day without gaining pounds per day) but it stopped working after about 8 months (common problem) so I'm now trying irvingia gabonensis.

            8 weeks in and I can see no weight difference and my serum leptin levels are no better. Needless to say I have my doubts. I'll try it for another 4 weeks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ottercat View Post
              When the researcher who owns the product rights is the only one publishing results, it's time to be suspicious! Also, a perusal of Google Scholar shows that of the 21 papers that cited the 2009 paper, none were peer reviewed journals. Just bloggers and the like.

              Tom Venuto has an interesting article and he runs the numbers for you. If this stuff does what it allegedly does, it would have to raise your metabolism an extra 1400 calories per day.
              Good article by Tom.

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              • #8
                Here is an article that I ran across regarding irvingia gabonensis and leptin by Dr. Al Sears. Just passing it along...

                Nature Is Better | Health Newsletter

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                • #9
                  I've gotten disenchanted with Mercola.

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                  • #10
                    Dr. Oz recommended it last year for weight loss, but didn't go into details why.

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