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    I am a non-diabetic with normal fasting blood sugars in the 70-85 range. Tonight I ate pizza for the first time since going primal and then I tested with my DH's glucometer (he is type 1 diabetic). I ate 4 slices of pizza with no red sauce and just veggie and cheese toppings. I had iced water with my meal and no dessert. My 45 minute post meal blood sugar was a whopping 210!!!! I feel awful and will never eat pizza again
    Jaime, wife to Phaedrus and primal mama to A (4) and X (1).

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    Never say never. There are some really good grain-free pizza recipes kicking around this forum. Some use almond flour for the crust or cauliflower rice but some skip the crust and are better known as "meatza" and use ground beef for the "pie shell". It is rarely the topping that up your blood sugar. Nothing wrong with mushrooms and peppers and onions and pepperoni (if it not full of preservatives and fillers). Every once in a while I just really want a stay at home date night with a good movie and some pizza, but the typical wheat crust leaves me bloated and uncomfortable. Home made almond crust is like a crispy thin crust alternative with way more protein and none of the side effects. Plus it fills you up after a couple slices. I always found I was still hungry after traditional take out pizza.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Leanne View Post
      Never say never. There are some really good grain-free pizza recipes kicking around this forum. Some use almond flour for the crust or cauliflower rice but some skip the crust and are better known as "meatza" and use ground beef for the "pie shell". It is rarely the topping that up your blood sugar. Nothing wrong with mushrooms and peppers and onions and pepperoni (if it not full of preservatives and fillers). Every once in a while I just really want a stay at home date night with a good movie and some pizza, but the typical wheat crust leaves me bloated and uncomfortable. Home made almond crust is like a crispy thin crust alternative with way more protein and none of the side effects. Plus it fills you up after a couple slices. I always found I was still hungry after traditional take out pizza.
      Oh, we eat primal pizza all of the time with almond meal/flax meal crust. We really want to try a meatza one of these days. I just meant that I AM NEVER EATING A WHEAT CRUST AGAIN. I am still hungry after 4 slices and feel like absolute crap in every part of my body.

      I should add that my blood sugar continued to rise above 230
      Jaime, wife to Phaedrus and primal mama to A (4) and X (1).

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      • #4
        I tried Meatza last week, and though I don't think it tasted like regular pizza, it was really good. To be honest, it tasted more like lasagna (at least the version I made) and I was thrilled! Very simple too.

        Meatza Meatza from JustinOwings.com


        I skipped the caroway, garlic salt, oregano and ground pepper, using a basic Italian blend of seasoning instead. Top with spaghetti sauce from a jar (Classico is pretty good ingredient-wise), mozzarella and provolone slices, then whatever toppings (mushroom and olive for me).

        Seriously, it was SO easy and hardly took any time at all.
        Durp.

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        • #5
          Meatza-- the most superior slice of 'za heaven you will ever shove in your mouth!
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          • #6
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            • #7
              The almond meal and tapioca flour pizza I made last week was awesome. I was full after much less than with a wheat crust and wasn't hungry again until around lunch the following day. No ickies.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bishop View Post
                The almond meal and tapioca flour pizza I made last week was awesome. I was full after much less than with a wheat crust and wasn't hungry again until around lunch the following day. No ickies.
                Recipe please!

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                • #9
                  I can imagine how you're feeling, had a couple tortillas with dinner, and feeling rough...

                  The meatza stuff sounds awesome!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fairychilde View Post
                    My 45 minute post meal blood sugar was a whopping 210!!!! I feel awful and will never eat pizza again
                    Out of curiosity do you feel terrible because the pizza jacked up your system or because you know your blood sugar was 210?

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                    • #11
                      Eh, that's not a huge deal. A huge insulin spike isn't what makes people fat and diabetic, it's constant insulin spikes. If you were to have taken those 4 slices of pizza and eaten them one at a time - one with breakfast, one with lunch, one with dinner and one as a snack before bed - it would be way more stress on your body and accumulate to more fat than just shoving them all down at once. I'm a big believer in a big starchy carb meal on a refeed day, and jamming 150g of carbs immediately after workout in one meal is the way to do it, not spread out as 50g of carbs per meal for three meals. Three to four hours after that pizza, your blood glucose will be normal and you may actually wind up taking a big leptin rebound from that high GI carb binge. Don't be surprised if you lose a pound or two over the next 5 days!

                      Just a tip: look into N-acetyl glucosamine. It blocks wheat lectins from binding with cell membranes. Try taking an N-acetyl glucosamine, a probiotic and a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar with mother 15 mins before the pizza and try that all over again. I'd be very curious if the lectin blocker and probiotic would help you feel better after and if the vinegar would slow the blood sugar rise. I followed the N-A-G and probiotic method over the past weekend where I ate 15 corn tortillas and I felt no ill effects at all. I actually felt great and sprinted better than I ever had in my life and my bench was up considerably. Also note that if cheese were on that pizza, you'd see a slower rise in blood sugar. The lack of fat is what made it shoot up so fast.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                        Eh, that's not a huge deal. A huge insulin spike isn't what makes people fat and diabetic, it's constant insulin spikes. If you were to have taken those 4 slices of pizza and eaten them one at a time - one with breakfast, one with lunch, one with dinner and one as a snack before bed - it would be way more stress on your body and accumulate to more fat than just shoving them all down at once. I'm a big believer in a big starchy carb meal on a refeed day, and jamming 150g of carbs immediately after workout in one meal is the way to do it, not spread out as 50g of carbs per meal for three meals. Three to four hours after that pizza, your blood glucose will be normal and you may actually wind up taking a big leptin rebound from that high GI carb binge. Don't be surprised if you lose a pound or two over the next 5 days!

                        Just a tip: look into N-acetyl glucosamine. It blocks wheat lectins from binding with cell membranes. Try taking an N-acetyl glucosamine, a probiotic and a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar with mother 15 mins before the pizza and try that all over again. I'd be very curious if the lectin blocker and probiotic would help you feel better after and if the vinegar would slow the blood sugar rise. I followed the N-A-G and probiotic method over the past weekend where I ate 15 corn tortillas and I felt no ill effects at all. I actually felt great and sprinted better than I ever had in my life and my bench was up considerably. Also note that if cheese were on that pizza, you'd see a slower rise in blood sugar. The lack of fat is what made it shoot up so fast.
                        It didn't seem to me like the OP was at all concerned with getting "fat and diabetic" from the pizza or was implying that blood sugar surges make people "fat and diabetic". It seemed like all she was saying was that she felt like shit after eating 4 slices of pizza.

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                        • #13
                          We LOVE the Portobello Pizza.

                          Recipe here:
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                            Meatza-- the most superior slice of 'za heaven you will ever shove in your mouth!
                            every meatza recipe I've ever tried has been anywhere from n.a.s.t.y. to edible but "meh." I can't imagine even a good one being a substitute for REAL pizza. A lot of nasty food can look good in pictures.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kennelmom View Post
                              every meatza recipe I've ever tried has been anywhere from n.a.s.t.y. to edible but "meh." I can't imagine even a good one being a substitute for REAL pizza. A lot of nasty food can look good in pictures.
                              Amen, sister!

                              The thing is though, even a really huge pizza, once a week, given the rest of the meals during the week are primal ([OPTIONAL] and you don't snack thus "normalizing" the blood sugar and all that), the harm from the pizza will be negligible. I gave up on trying to prepare substitutes for the real "treats" (ice cream, pizza, spaghetti, etc.).

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