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    I would like to do a modified Whole 30. I did W30 in April, and launched into a manic binge as soon as it was over. I want to avoid this, so I was thinking I'd allow some sensible vices, but wanted guidance on which ones would be good ones & others not so much.
    I know it kinda defeats the purpose of W30, but I definitely want to do it again and keep refining my diet.

    for sure I am allowing bacon. W30 without bacon was just... painful. Childbirth was easier!

    any other suggestions?

    EDIT: P.S. This would be and extended W30 from July 10 - late August (when I go for my next diabetes checkup)
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  • #2
    I'll be doing a Whole 30 + butter in July. I can't give up the butter.

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    • #3
      Butter, yes! Totally agree. Butter is delicious.

      I also have ghee, but definitely prefer butter.
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      • #4
        Well, I would call it something else, make up your own name. But if you change anything at all, then as a wise man once said, you're NDTFP.
        Hint, the last word is "Program".

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        • #5
          Who cares, screw the name, I made up something called 30DONN (30 days of no nonsense) and some folks here liked it and ran with it because that's what whole30 is (or was) to me, 30 days where you're going to be straight up with yourself and make yourself accountable. I agree that calling it whole30 is slightly dishonest if you're not following THEIR guidelines, so make up your own title if you wish.

          Personally, having also done whole30 if i were to do it again I would keep the dairy that I consume (mostly heavy cream, don't even really use butter that often) and allow myself "social" cheats such as chocolate, or alcohol in moderation.

          I don't really see the value in doing w30 over and over again, instead I'd use it as a starting point then find how you want to live day to day. For instance, if you're a daily drinker, whole30 will teach you that you can do without, but you may still choose to partake in the drink once a week, or something to that effect. I found I have no real "fuck I'm really about to shit my pants!" type of allergy or aversion to foods I didn't eat during whole30 so I only learned that I'm fully CAPABLE of abstinence if I really put my mind to it.

          I wouldn't do it again, like I said, I think it's best to find a "model" you can do 4 LYFE rather than a 30 day bootcamp style eating that leaves you feeling like you purposely want to eat all that shit they denied you.
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          • #6
            I'm doing a proper whole30 in July... I liked the challenge of no dairy.

            I kinda agree with iniQuity... either do whole30 as intended or do a 30DONN (I LOVE that btw!!)

            Personally... whole30 is more of a challenge than anything. I like challenging myself to come up with new food ideas & I also like the no dairy thing - something I'd eventually like to do for real, but I'll just keep doing whole30 until the no dairy sticks for good!
            Robin
            ~primal mama to 3~

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            • #7
              Let's go for BACON DONN!
              I don't eat bacon every day, but my tummy (and overall psyche) are very happy when I do. I don't eat a lot of dairy (coconut milk *is* pretty tasty), but I like butter better than ghee.

              I am also really enjoying homemade coconut bark. My latest batch is EVCO, coconut cream, shredded coconut, cardamom, and a little liquid vanilla stevia. So good!

              all reasonable vices, right?

              love your 30DONN, iniquity!
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              • #8
                Could someone please explain what the big deal is with Whole 30?

                I looked it up here- The Whole30, Version 3.11 | Whole9 | Let us change your life.

                I have made those changes pretty much since 2007. What is the 30 day thing for? It seems like if you want to make a change, you should make a permanent change. (I counted 5 things on the "do not" list that I still do, but they are Primal (like butter and yogurt))

                We always say Primal is a way of living/way of eating. Permanent changes. What's the deal with a 30 day thing? I just don't get it.

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                • #9
                  I think all 30 day primal self-challenges should be called 30Grok

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fitmom View Post
                    I think all 30 day primal self-challenges should be called 30Grok
                    word!

                    I think Whole 30 is for newcomers, challenging them to just try it, gung ho, for 30 days.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DFH View Post
                      Could someone please explain what the big deal is with Whole 30?

                      I looked it up here- The Whole30, Version 3.11 | Whole9 | Let us change your life.

                      I have made those changes pretty much since 2007. What is the 30 day thing for? It seems like if you want to make a change, you should make a permanent change. (I counted 5 things on the "do not" list that I still do, but they are Primal (like butter and yogurt))

                      We always say Primal is a way of living/way of eating. Permanent changes. What's the deal with a 30 day thing? I just don't get it.
                      I like the challenge to be honest. It challenges me to come up with new ideas, new ways of preparing meals... I also feel a whole lot better without dairy. I kept most of it out after the last whole30 - but I'm finding its sinking back in slowly... and I'm noticing some reaction to it.

                      I also like to organize whole30 challenges with new to paleo/primal folks - the rules are clear and frank and its sometimes an easy introduction to eating this way. I've found some people are more willing to do a whole30 than navigate MDA... but once they've done the whole30 - they feel better about approaching primal living and nutrition because they have felt how good eating this way is - MDA seems less intimidating. Its like a gateway.... and I prefer to do the challenge with them.

                      I also find its a good way to get back on track with primal if you've had a few cheats...
                      Robin
                      ~primal mama to 3~

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                      • #12
                        One thing you could do is allow yourself 1 serving of cheese/day. I found going completely dairy free - I wasn't getting enough food in the am...so I put cheese back in w/my eggs for bkfst. now that I'm focusing on the 50g protein in the am... limiting my cheese intake is quite easy. what every you do - it should be something you can easily maintain w/o problems... sometimes that might include a "primal treat" 1-2x/week. its about managing your life and eating to a degree where it won't become obsessive...IMO
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                          I would like to do a modified Whole 30. I did W30 in April, and launched into a manic binge as soon as it was over.
                          I had the same experience. W30 is unnecessarily restrictive IMO. I guess I wanted to do it to say I did it, which is pretty stupid in hindsight. No reason to eliminate healthy, whole foods that don't cause me any issues. It definitely did me more harm than good...and I wasn't a "newbie" to primal/paleo when I did it.

                          I like the 30DONN concept, for sure. Though I've always done best with Mark's 80/20 principle. Much less stress and doesn't feel restrictive to me at all.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kennelmom View Post
                            I had the same experience. W30 is unnecessarily restrictive IMO. I guess I wanted to do it to say I did it, which is pretty stupid in hindsight. No reason to eliminate healthy, whole foods that don't cause me any issues. It definitely did me more harm than good...and I wasn't a "newbie" to primal/paleo when I did it.

                            I like the 30DONN concept, for sure. Though I've always done best with Mark's 80/20 principle. Much less stress and doesn't feel restrictive to me at all.
                            I feel the same, when I did 30DONN (which was actually a whole30 I just felt like calling it something else but stuck to their guidelines 100%) I was going through some other stuff and needed a 180. I needed to be neurotically disciplined because I was going off the rails in other ways.

                            I wasn’t eating all that bad, so after a week or so I actually totally regretted the decision, three weeks in I thought it was a waste of time but I HAD to finish it. Surprisingly, by the fourth week I started to feel bad that it was almost over, because I knew how easily I could (and did) go back to my old habits. Having that end date in sight was the problem, it wasn’t a real change, it was just a challenge month and nothing else. I did learn from it, for sure, learned a lot about myself honestly and I’m VERY happy I did it, but don’t think I’ll ever do it again.

                            This can suit certain personality types really well, but mine not so much. I’m the kid that would most likely fail the marshmallow test.
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                            • #15
                              I would totally pass the marshmallow test... so long as the reward was a marshmallow 10x the size of the one on the table

                              I think I will resolve myself to bacon 30 + butter
                              Last edited by Dr. Bork Bork; 06-21-2011, 07:26 AM.
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