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    I am very frustrated today....I am feeling like total crap again!

    I have pretty bad rheumatoid arthritis and with it comes severe fatigue. Through primal diet and medication I had really gotten to the point where I was feeling quite good. The last two weeks or so though my energy is plummeting again. Today is horrible, I had to talk myself in to getting out of bed for a shower and an appointment to fix my car and walk the dog. Then came home and went to sleep again for a few hours. I am still exhausted and haven't even made it to work yet.

    I am back to dreading all my social events as well. I have two parties tomorrow and want to cancel both. Plus i have to make food to bring to them which is overwhelming when I am so tired. It can be hard to explain this kind of fatigue to healthy people - but it is truly overwhelming. Even if someone offered me a trip to Hawaii with Brad Pitt, I'd still just rather sleep

    I have added quite a lot of coconut to my diet. Pre-primal I always felt like coconut made me tired - but I had added some in without a problem since going primal. Maybe I just can't tolerate it? If so, what the heck would cause that?

    I do a low lectin version of primal - very limited dairy, nuts and eggs, no nightshades. I am getting sick of eliminating food groups.

    Sorry to so negative. I love primal and it has helped me immensely. Something has gotten off track though and I NEED to figure it out soon.

    Thanks!

    ETA: I should mention that I do a very simple version of primal. I don't limit carbs or calories and just eat based on appetite. I usually IF from about 6 pm to 11 am. I eat meals mostly of meats and veggies with some added fat. I have fruit, dark chocolate, and butter daily.
    Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

    http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

  • #2
    Are you exposed to secondhand smoke at all lately? Tobacco is another nightshade. And for what it's worth, Brad Pitt puts me to sleep too. Hope you figure out what's going on.

    Have you switched coconut oils? Maybe from expeller pressed to *extra virgin* or vise versa. Dunno if that would matter, but maybe . . .

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    • #3
      Originally posted by brahnamin View Post
      Are you exposed to secondhand smoke at all lately? Tobacco is another nightshade. And for what it's worth, Brad Pitt puts me to sleep too. Hope you figure out what's going on.

      Have you switched coconut oils? Maybe from expeller pressed to *extra virgin* or vise versa. Dunno if that would matter, but maybe . . .
      Thanks for the feedback. I had NO idea tobacco was a nightshade.....no wonder I felt horrible all those years as a bartender! No exposure lately though.

      I have however just switched to Nutiva coconut oil. It is the first brand I've tried that I actually like the taste of and have been eating a lot more of it. I also switched to a frozen brand of coconut milk which is really a coconut cream. So I have two new sources of coconut fat. You think that could really be it?

      Hmmm....maybe the miracle food that gives every one else tons of energy doesn't work for me? This will be sad....I am in LOVE with this frozen coconut cream. But I need my energy back.
      Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

      http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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      • #4
        I wish I had specific information about *how* the coconut oils might be effecting you. Just took note that you perceived coconut as tiring agent and fresh coconut oil like Nutiva is going to be more *coconutty* than an expeller pressed coconut oil like Spectrum or Tree of Life - it really shines through in the flavor. The expeller pressed oils are creamy and rich, but the coconut flavor is almost completely effaced and are probably heat treated and otherwise manipulated for just this effect. The Nutiva, on the other hand, goes through almost no processing compared to expeller pressed oils and has a rich, almost heavy coconut flavor. Closer to the real thing, as it were.

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        • #5
          You could try the coca pulse test to see if you're having a reaction to the coconut.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by tradawg View Post
            You could try the coca pulse test to see if you're having a reaction to the coconut.
            Interesting. I have never heard of that, but I do know I have a bunch of foods that give me a very high heart rate. Honey is one, or if I go out for chinese food it happens. I haven't really noticed with the coconut, but I only notice if it is REALLY high and racing. I will give it a try. Thanks!!
            Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

            http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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            • #7
              Do you think you may have CFS or isit just fatigue from the RA?

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              • #8
                I was falling apart until I got rid of most of the carbs, all save low sugar berries and vegetables. The leptin protocol states that too much carb creates leptin and insulin imbalance.
                WWW.SUGARAHOLICS.COM

                I was a sugarbaby; meaning since I was born I was given lots of sugar, and ate lots of processed foods, especially sweets until I was into my thirties. Most people in the west were/are sugarbabies.

                “How does today’s youngster educate his sense of taste? By submerging it in a sea of sugar from the time he gets up to the time he goes to bed.” W. Root and Richard DeRochemont, Eating in America (1976)

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                • #9
                  To each their own but I think the IF thing is overly done. It can easily lead to calorie restriction at an unintended level. I would eat a decent (early, like when you get up) breakfast even if you're not necessarily hungry. My outhouse opinion anyway.
                  Wheat is the new tobacco. Spread the word.

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                  • #10
                    Are you getting accidental gluten? I know gluten exposure makes me feel wiped out for days and days, and really brings down my B12 levels... It's so easy to get "glutened" if you're not militant about it. Sauces, spice blends, mustard, vinegar- it can be anywhere...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sue View Post
                      Do you think you may have CFS or isit just fatigue from the RA?
                      I don't really thing so - I did have fatigue for a long time before my RA was officially diagnosed so I explored all kinds of causes of fatigue. I just never really fit a CFS diagnosis. Or really any of the major fatigue causing diseases. I have read that something along the lines of 90% of RA patients report excessive fatigue and a large number of those rank it as more debilitating than the pain.
                      Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                      http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SugarBaby View Post
                        I was falling apart until I got rid of most of the carbs, all save low sugar berries and vegetables. The leptin protocol states that too much carb creates leptin and insulin imbalance.
                        I do eat a lot of carbs for a primal person, but I haven't had any trouble loosing weight on this way of eating. Wouldn't that mean that I don't have a leptin or insulin problem? Or am I missing understanding something....again

                        I would be willing to try low carb for energy, but I am already limiting so many food groups that I just hate to get more strict. Too bad I can't just know ahead of time if it would work
                        Last edited by jammies; 06-18-2011, 06:10 PM.
                        Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                        http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Embyr42 View Post
                          Are you getting accidental gluten? I know gluten exposure makes me feel wiped out for days and days, and really brings down my B12 levels... It's so easy to get "glutened" if you're not militant about it. Sauces, spice blends, mustard, vinegar- it can be anywhere...
                          I am not even getting "accidentally glutened"....I eat food with gluten probably once a week or so. Usually pretty small amounts....you think that could be doing it? In fact, I had quite a lot of gluten during a vacation about two weeks ago. But I have always had occasional gluten and not noticed a problem. Do you think gluten could still be the culprit?
                          Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                          http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IvyBlue View Post
                            To each their own but I think the IF thing is overly done. It can easily lead to calorie restriction at an unintended level. I would eat a decent (early, like when you get up) breakfast even if you're not necessarily hungry. My outhouse opinion anyway.
                            I don't track, but I would be stunned if I were eating too little I really, really, really like primal food!! I mostly use IF to avoid mindless snacking in the evening and find I sleep better that way. I have been struggling a little more lately with hunger....so maybe I'll try adding in breakfast again. Thanks!
                            Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                            http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                            • #15
                              Gluten messes me up pretty badly, and I just found out something in Powerade Zero does too (coloring? sucralose? something else?) when I got way too low on electrolytes and got a little desperate to replace them. No coconut water in sight, so I downed one Thursday and another Friday. I was depressed and fatigued and super moody (close to tears) until I guess it worked its way out later today.

                              I've found with gluten, a little goes a long way. I can eat a small hot fudge sundae with no problem (if it's gluten free) but even a tiny bit of gluten causes a reaction.
                              Durp.

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