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  • 5 Days into primal,weight hovering.

    Hello, just thought I would post on here to see if maybe i'm jumping the gun when it comes to weight loss with primal. I was primal for about a month last year and felt great about it,but my weight didn't seem to change much. I've started back up and am really keeping an eye on my carbs. After about 4 days ive averaged about 40 carbs,my protein seems almost twice as much as my fat daily(probably 125g fat to 200g protein). Very little fruit,mixed with sprints,a bit of weight training and light jogging. Im using fitday.com to track everything as closely as possible. Am I just impatient or am I missing a component here? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    P.S. Im 6'0,231lbs.
    Calories fluctuate from 1500 to 2200 daily.

  • #2
    Put away your scales and go by how your clothes fit. And how you feel Welcome!
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    • #3
      Here's a good exercise for you.

      Get a sledgehammer. Take the scale and the sledgehammer out into the driveway. Swing the sledgehammer a few times to loosen up your arms. Take aim. Slam the sledgehammer down onto the scale. Repeat until the scale is in at least 30 small pieces.

      Get a broom and a dustpan. Sweep up the pieces of the scale. Dump them in the garbage can. Put away the broom and dustpan. Continue to swing the sledgehammer for the rest of your workout.

      Numbers on the scale are not the point of this way of living. Feeling healthy and being able to do things like smash a scale with a sledgehammer are the point of this way of living.
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      • #4
        I would love to do that however it is my roommates scale,he may need it for something in the future,possibly weighing something. And by not addressing my concerns outright I would say that I probably am following the general line with primal,which is ok with me. I guess I was looking for someone to say "hey,idiot thats wrong,fix this." But since that didnt happen I will leave the scale alone and continue with what ive been doing! Thanks guys!

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        • #5
          I wouldn't sledgehammer the scale, but hiding it out of sight can't hurt (I'm craning my neck right now to spot the scale stuffed under my shelves).

          As for your diet... play around with it --- ramp up the fat, sledgehammer the remaining carbs if you can. That's what I've been doing and I'm averaging at least 3000 calories a day without gaining any weight (and yes, I'm a girl, and not as physically active either.) Work with your body and find your own optimal ratio.

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          • #6
            There is no point in weighing yourself after 4 days. Weigh yourself and measure your waistline once, then repeat in 4 weeks. If weight has decreased but waist hasn't you have lost muscle, not fat. If it's the other way around (or both are down) you are probably on the right track (assuming fat loss is the goal).
            Norak's Primal Journal:
            2010-07-23: ~255lbs, ~40.0"
            2011-11-03: ~230lbs, ~35.5"
            2011-12-07: ~220lbs, ~34.0"

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            • #7
              Maybe the most logical explanation is the simplest (Occam's razor anyone?).

              That is, maybe you are eating too much. There is a rough guide for estimating the calories needed: for a mildly active male, the calories per pound are around 12 (for an active individual: 14-16). That is for a pound of Lean Body Mass, not the total. Guess-timating that you are a 6'0 male, your LBM should to be around 160. Multiply 160 by 12 and you get 1920. So, in order to lose weight, you have to consume less than these calories. And one more thing: since you are counting calories, take the weekly average of the calories consumed, the body doesn't work strictly on a daily basis, so you need the average.
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              • #8
                Eat a bit less, relax more, no carbs.

                You might be making yourself more hungry with sprints,a bit of weight training and light jogging. Do that stuff after weight starts to move.

                Blood chemistry first, exercise second.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by trippplez View Post
                  Maybe the most logical explanation is the simplest (Occam's razor anyone?).

                  That is, maybe you are eating too much. There is a rough guide for estimating the calories needed: for a mildly active male, the calories per pound are around 12 (for an active individual: 14-16). That is for a pound of Lean Body Mass, not the total. Guess-timating that you are a 6'0 male, your LBM should to be around 160. Multiply 160 by 12 and you get 1920. So, in order to lose weight, you have to consume less than these calories. And one more thing: since you are counting calories, take the weekly average of the calories consumed, the body doesn't work strictly on a daily basis, so you need the average.
                  Those calculations are unreliable. They don't take into account metabolism and hormones. Everyone is different.

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                  • #10
                    Of course they are unreliable, that is why I wrote "rough guide". BUT ... it's a repeating trend that people on a new diet underestimate their calorie intake, especially on a diet that "promises" that you don't have to count calories and that you won't feel hungry. Yeah, right. There is a reason why there are so many threads like this in which people are frustrated with the lack of results. It's a well know fact that the more overweight you are, the more you underestimate the amount of the food you eat, even when you are told to track it.

                    If everyone is so different, we'll be separate species.
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                    • #11
                      Finding the right diet first then coming up with a routine of exercise makes sense,I feel like maybe I was just being impatient and was trying to do too many things at once accelerate the fat loss. Also when tracking on fitday.com I really am overestimating how much I eat so I dont think calorie or carb intake is to blame. However after 8 full days on primal I can report about 5 lbs of weight loss. Ive changed up my workouts a bit,added resistance training and less weight training. Also I've cut out fruit and dairy pretty much exclusively(I will miss raw milk)until I get to my goal of 185. Thanks for delving deeper into this,I really was looking for something other than throw away your scale

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Griff View Post
                        Here's a good exercise for you.

                        Get a sledgehammer. Take the scale and the sledgehammer out into the driveway. Swing the sledgehammer a few times to loosen up your arms. Take aim. Slam the sledgehammer down onto the scale. Repeat until the scale is in at least 30 small pieces.

                        Get a broom and a dustpan. Sweep up the pieces of the scale. Dump them in the garbage can. Put away the broom and dustpan. Continue to swing the sledgehammer for the rest of your workout.

                        Numbers on the scale are not the point of this way of living. Feeling healthy and being able to do things like smash a scale with a sledgehammer are the point of this way of living.
                        The is the best workout I have ever heard of in my life.

                        Can this be done in a field to the tune "Still" by the Geto Boys, la Office Space?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Merry Death View Post
                          The is the best workout I have ever heard of in my life.

                          Can this be done in a field to the tune "Still" by the Geto Boys, la Office Space?
                          Good one!

                          I wish I could do that with calorie requirement calculators.

                          I can't believe that anyone on a site like this (where it's known that CW is worthless), that anyone would be using those.

                          There is no such thing as "calculating" an "estimate."

                          Think about it...

                          If you use an equation with an equal sign, it's not an estimate. If it does not work every time, then using it would be a mistake.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by trippplez View Post
                            Of course they are unreliable, that is why I wrote "rough guide". BUT ... it's a repeating trend that people on a new diet underestimate their calorie intake, especially on a diet that "promises" that you don't have to count calories and that you won't feel hungry. Yeah, right. There is a reason why there are so many threads like this in which people are frustrated with the lack of results. It's a well know fact that the more overweight you are, the more you underestimate the amount of the food you eat, even when you are told to track it.

                            If everyone is so different, we'll be separate species.
                            Yes, agree its just a rough guide!!! LOL, DFH can't help himself at the mention of calories.

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                            • #15
                              Damien, don't cut out carbs anymore than what you were eating - 40g. I think moderate carb is the way to go especially if you are going to be quite active. Cut out the dairy and fruit but include starches. Further on in your weight loss if you are doing okay try and add back a piece of fruit. The more foods we can include in our diets the better when it comes to maintenance.

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