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    Hi,


    I have been a lurker of MDA and the forum for a while, and have come up with a bit of a problem. I am in the Reserve forces, and so I can quite happily eat primal in my own time, however when on training we obviously have to eat what we are given. The training has generally been pretty intense, and so IF is out of the question (for 2-3 days without food when active 18hrs a day, I would probably collapse, not to mention the two week courses). Does anyone else have a similar problem, and how do you get around it?


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    What, you mean your sarge won't toss you a steak every few hours?


    Sorry, fella-you're in the Army now!


    WHEN you have the opportunity; don't blow it on alcohol and twinkies.

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      First off, thanks for your service. I was in the exact same situation that you're in when i was serving. There's really not much you can do unless you want to pack your own food. Yeah me either...I think you're probably going to just have to chalk it up.

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        @DM, unfortunately it seems sarge will only toss me beers or cigarettes... neither of which do much good...


        @Travis Yep, was really just looking for those who were/had been in the same positions... Thanks! always good to meet others who served.


        Have to say Marks blog post yesterday was pretty much perfect timing... I fear next exercise my bergan is going to be pretty much heavier with the tinned tuna, Biltong and pemmican!

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          I doff my hat to you, PrimalCharles. My OH was in the Royal Air Force for 12 years - I have total admiration for anyone in the military, reserve or otherwise.


          Good luck with the biltong!

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            It's not really that hard, if you put your mind into it.

            What I've been doing myself (for exercises up to 2 weeks):

            1. Eat from rations what you can.

            2. Take your own food

            - canned food: sardines, mackerel and tuna being my favourite

            - dried meat: not hard to do at all, couple of pounds lasts for a long while. Pemmican is even better, but takes more effort to make

            - nuts

            - dried fruit: bananas, plums, apples etc. I know.. fruit is not very primal, but you are burning lots of calories and I consider this situation being close to endurance athletics.

            - Take a flask of olive oil and pour it generously over everything you eat. I do not mean drowning it in oil but.. well - you can work out the best way to use it yourself.

            - Butter works too, but you have to have an airtight container to hold it in.. Tends to melt. I've used also finnish crisp bread with LOTS of butter. They are delicious, low-carb and lot of its carbs content is fiber anyway.

            3. If all other options run out - eat non-primal shamelessly. It's only for a few days and you burn lots of carbs straight off.


            I must confess that I have the same problem though, but on bigger scale. I'm expecting to spend 6 months in merry province of Helmand in southern Afghanistan next year and it's a bit problematic to pack for 180 days

            Have still to work out logistics for that one!

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              Just wanted to mention that IF doesn't mean going 2-3 days without food. It's more like skipping a meal or three.

              You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                @hakman73, let us all know when you go & we'll keep ya supplied with good primal stuff.

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                  Just wanted to share this article that I found yesterday


                  http://robbwolf.com/?p=918

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                    @Travis Thanks for the link!


                    @hakman73 - may well see you there! possibly off at the end of next year, and it will be south in Helmand... Great fun! Does the Estonian military get the free packages from Estonia, in the way the UK does? (packages around the size of a shoebox and under 2kg are free)

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                      @ PrimalCharles - I really haven't looked into package policy yet. If that's true it would make a lot of difference. 2kg amounts a lot of jerky.

                      So you'll be deployed in the end of year? I'll be then able to give you some good tips as I'll be off in April/May timeframe.

                      By the way - I'm right now in UK too - participating in FST Commanders Course in Larkhill.

                      It's a challenge on its own to stay primal in british military installation, I must say! Well.. actually it's not been too bad - today my low-carbing earned me an extra slice of delicious lamb roast with a wink ("so you wont starve without carbs") from our chef.

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                        This is not strictly Primal, but good in a fix...plain 'ol low-carb Protein Powder. It's fairly light, indestructable, and can go anywhere. Have several friends in the Navy and that's what they're supplementing at the moment. If you have access to some fat, add it in the shake.

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                          @hakman73 - Spent a alco filled week at larkhill wasting the taxpayers money on a riding course... slightly more fun but less useful than the FST course I imagine...! I found, having a bit of time on US bases in Germany that the low carb option is easier than on the British bases, although I do agree with our units chef's policy on Vegetarians... Unprintable!

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                            Big military holds onto CW tighter than Obama does his birth certificate. Their chow halls are worse than grade school cafeterias.


                            Glad to hear you are reserves, and can eat mostly what you want. I agree though, going out into the field with MREs is hardly primal.


                            I would try to trade the skittles/sweet tarts/gum in your MRE for the meat portions in someone elses kit.

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                              I'm not reserves - I just use my position as an officer selfishly and pack my own meals

                              Sometimes it's MRE too - you cannot always win and yes, trading goods is always an option.

                              I haven't been in any US bases, have some experience with a German one, which wasn't too bad.

                              Worst so far was in Finland - tasty enough, but very fat-free and carb heavy. Although there was always a good choice of green salad available, which is not the case in UK it seams.

                              As of Estonia.. You can survive on garrison food - just have to skip potatoes, pasta or rice and eat only meat part of the dish. Only negative thing is that portions are pre-measured.

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