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    So, I've been poking around MDA for a couple of weeks now, trying to read as many posts as possible. The basic philosophy seems very intuitive and makes sense, but as I've been trying to implement this new way of life, I've gotten quite discouraged. My husband and I are both full-time graduate students and, needless to say, do not have a lot of money. I'm trying to eat good animal protein, but then I see posts about how farm-raised salmon is terrible, and Mark would NEVER eat beef that isn't grass-fed. I love grass-fed beef and understand why it's so much better, but I simply can't afford it all the time. Is anyone else here in a similar situation? I'd love some advice. Thank you so much!

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    Im no expert but Ive seen lots of "primal on a budget" themed posts since I started reading MDA. The general consensus seems to be dont sweat it. There are tons of folks doing the primal thing with conventionally raised meat and regular non-organic groceries. Would it be somehow "better" if they could go all the way with the grass fed? Oh sure. Are they seeing phenomenol results even without it? Absolutely.

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    • #3
      You do the best you can with what you have to work with.

      Basically, if you can afford the best, then go for it. If you can't, then that's just how it is.

      Even if you're just getting your Primal food from the grocery store, you're STILL going to be eating better than if you ate the way the vast majority of people do. Don't sweat it!
      Durp.

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      • #4
        Here are a few ideas. Try to buy some sardines and wild caught fish that is canned. If you have a Whole Foods near you they have some pretty good deals on canned fish that is very low in mercury contamination, BPA free cans, and are great sources of n3. For grass fed beef try to go for the fattier cuts of ground beef as they are cheaper than the lean cuts of ground beef. When it comes to steaks try to avoid the rib eye or NY steaks since they tend to be the more expensive cuts and go for the London Broil, top sirloin, chuck. They may not be as marbled as the rib eyes but if you season and cook them right they are really yummy and you will get more bang for your buck.

        You can also buy in bulk and do some sort of cowshare program where you buy 25 lbs of beef or a 1/4 cow which helps save a lot. I have friends who buy whole cows and divide it among our group and we tend to save a little that way.

        Costco has some pretty good deals on organic chickens, organic ground beef, wild caught salmon and organic eggs.

        Also you can sign up for Whole Foods newsletter to update you on weekly deals.
        "If man made it, don't eat it" - Jack Lallane

        People say I am on a "crazy" diet. What is so crazy about eating veggies, fruits, seafood and organ meats? Just because I don't eat whole wheat and processed food doesn't make my diet "crazy". Maybe everyone else with a SAD are the "crazy" ones for putting that junk in their system.

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        • #5
          Not sure where you read Mark would NEVER eat regular beef lol... If that is the case he has become a rich snob
          I will quote his grass/grain fed beef blog post: "Eat beef, first and foremost. Get the highest quality beef you can afford, whether that ends up being premium grass-finished from the farm up the road or USDA Prime from Costco. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Man cannot live on wild caught canned sardines and crushing angst alone."
          If the option grass fed vs grain fed was available to you, sure you should pick the grass fed due to better micronutrient profile. But when the option is grain fed meat vs grains themselves or sugary/processed foods... Grain fed meat damn well comes out on top! Grain fed meat doesn't contain gut irritants, it doesn't inhibit mineral absorption, it doesn't contain a terrible macro- AND micronutrient profile. In short it isn't detrimental to health, but rather contains a splendid macronutrient composition with plenty of protein and fat.
          If you eat fish regularly or take a fish oil supplement while eating conventional meat and veggies, I believe you will reap at least 90% of the benefits from going primal.
          Now go eat your conventional meat!

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          • #6
            I'm doing primal on conventional foods. I decided to just start and make the best choices I could without worrying if it was the perfect choice. It 's going really well for me even though I haven't eaten grass-fed anything or counted a single carb gram or calorie. (lost 10.5 lbs since beginning May ). I'm going to keep going like this unless I stall, then I might refine things a bit, but only if it stops working for a few weeks.

            Just start. Refine as you go along. Don 't let perfect be the enemy of great.
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            • #7
              I'm doing on non-organic whatever I can get my hands on. Most of the beef here (UK) seems to be grass-fed (or so I've been told) the only place with it actually on the label is my local budget supermarket (ALDI).

              Don't stress it. I'm a student and on a budget but it is possible to eat primally without it being organic, grass fed, this that and the other. Just buy the best quality YOU can afford and go from there.
              Last edited by sarah1990; 05-30-2011, 03:07 AM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by sarah1990 View Post
                I'm doing on non-organic whatever I can get my hands on. Most of the beef here (UK) seems to be grass-fed (or so I've been told) the only place with it actually on the label is my local budget supermarket (ALDI).

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                Is it? Fab! I didn't know that. I assumed it wasn't because it doesn't say on the packet. Eggs all seem to be cereal fed in my nearest tesco.
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                • #9
                  As long as you're spending your precious food budget on meat, fish, seafood, vegetables, eggs, bacon, and butter and not eating shit that came out of a box or a bag with 36 ingredients on the label you'll do fine!
                  Newcomers: If you haven't read the book, at least read this thread ... and all the links!
                  http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread17722.html

                  F/49/5'4"
                  Jan. 1, 2011: 186.6 lbs PBSW Mar. 1, 2011: 175.8 lbs
                  CW: 146.8 lbs
                  GW 140 lbs
                  A proud member of PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals

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                  • #10
                    According to the Monterey Bay Aquarium's Seafood Watch, farm-raised Coho and Silver Salmon tank-raised in the U.S. is a sustainable option.

                    Salmon, Coho - Seafood Watch | Monterey Bay Aquarium

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Silky View Post
                      Is it? Fab! I didn't know that. I assumed it wasn't because it doesn't say on the packet. Eggs all seem to be cereal fed in my nearest tesco.
                      Aldi mince beef is, not 100% sure on other products they do.
                      Waitrose is at least 75% grass fed - some are given silage etc for the last 25% which does have corn in it. This includes the essential range! (I used to work there - I was annoying and asked the guys on the meat counter!)

                      Supposedly most cattle in the UK is fed on "forage" which is predominantly grass but is partly silage or leftover crops.

                      So it's not 100% grass fed, but pretty close! I wouldn't bet on Tesco Value being grass fed, or in fact beef, but standard supermarket brands are a good bet.

                      http://www.tescofarming.com/v2/livestock_beef.asp

                      http://www.waitrose.com/home/inspira...meat/beef.html

                      http://www.co-operative.coop/food/fo...ood/meat/beef/

                      The Asda and Sainsbury's websites were useless.
                      Last edited by sarah1990; 05-30-2011, 04:56 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Ignore the paleo snobs who wouldn't dare let a morsel of grain-fed beef touch their tongues. Grass-fed/wild-caught/organic/etc are all in that last 10% of optimization of your diet. You already have reaped 90-95% of the benefits of a paleo diet at that point, is that extra 1-2% benefit worth it? Not really, especially on a limited income, as we graduate students are!

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                        • #13
                          I'm broke too, but have managed to track down both happy pigs (free-range) for just under 6USD/kg. Cow is a little more expensive, but if you have a giant freezer, you can really get some good deals!

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                          • #14
                            I have been on PB for over a year now and probably have had grassfed meat only a few times. It's just not that available or affordable, and I am not going to stress over it. I try to buy organic veggies whenever possible, and dairy too. I also found affordable eggs from a farm. So, I do the best I can.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sarah1990 View Post
                              Aldi mince beef is, not 100% sure on other products they do.
                              Waitrose is at least 75% grass fed - some are given silage etc for the last 25% which does have corn in it. This includes the essential range! (I used to work there - I was annoying and asked the guys on the meat counter!)

                              Supposedly most cattle in the UK is fed on "forage" which is predominantly grass but is partly silage or leftover crops.

                              So it's not 100% grass fed, but pretty close! I wouldn't bet on Tesco Value being grass fed, or in fact beef, but standard supermarket brands are a good bet.

                              Tesco Beef Standards

                              Beef - Meat - Food - About our products - Inspiration - Waitrose.com

                              British beef | Meat range | The Co-operative Food

                              The Asda and Sainsbury's websites were useless.

                              That's really helpful. Thanks.

                              I discovered M&s Angus steak burgers have a gluten-free binder ( rice and potato flour) so they are a reasonable option when you fancy a burger.
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