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    Gary Taubes writes: "When I interviewed Peter Havel and Kimber Stanhope at U.C. Davis about the study they're doing on sugar and high fructose corn syrup they told me a relevant story, which is that the last time they studied glucose vs. fructose in older Americans, they wanted to pick people who didn't consume a lot of sugar-sweetened beverages. So they had to reject a lot of their applicants because they consumed more than one sugar-sweetened beverage a day. But they still had enough to do the study. When they moved on to the sucrose/HFCS study they're doing now and we're studying younger subjects under 40 they had trouble finding any to fit the criteria. "We had to change the criteria," Havel told me, "because we couldn't find anybody that was consuming that. It was very difficult to find anyone consuming less than two. We were asking them how many, and people were going `six'." So what they did was do what's called a washout period before starting the study, bring in the subjects, getting them off ssb's for two weeks, and then feeding them back.

  • #2
    I actually would have thought that was horrible prior to ever hearing about Paleo.
    If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least and this (personal fave):


    • #3
      I forgot the numbers, but the sugar consumption per person in the US is like 12 times what it was in the 1800s, and that is not even factoring in all the other refining of carbs... It's scary.


      • #4
        Six in a day?! Gross.

        I'm so glad my parents didn't let us drink soda unless it was a "special" occasion, and even then it was always the diet variation. One of my housemates drinks full sugar coke like it's the only liquid on earth. Makes me feel a bit sick.
        My Primal Journal


        • #5
          I remember there was a time when I didn't care about my health... I'd drink 6 to 8 cans of soda a day. I can't say I'm surprised to hear other people do that too.


          • #6
            That's sad, but not surprising. I've seen too many of my own friends drinking that much soda to be surprised. I'm so, so grateful that even before my family started getting away from conventional foods, soda and other sugary drinks were never a regular part of diet when I was growing up. The only time we ever had it in the house was at Thanksgiving and Christmas, but it's been years since we even had that. It's amazing really, because both of my parents grew up in households where soda was the primary beverage.
            We must learn to do what the leaf and the whale and the wind do of their own nature. We must learn to keep the balance. Having intelligence, we must not act in ignorance. Having choice, we must not act without responsibility
            -Sparrowhawk, The Farthest Shore by Ursula K. LeGuin


            • #7
              It doesn't help that soda is so cheap these days, like .20 a can on a good sale when you buy the 12 pks. Or a two liter for only .99 that gets sucked down in a day, cuz ya know it goes flat so fast if you let it sit. Giving up soda and any other beverages sweetened with hfcs was the first step I took in converting myself to a low-carb then paleo diet. It made it much easier than going cold-turkey.


              • #8
                Originally posted by Ryokumuji View Post
                I remember there was a time when I didn't care about my health... I'd drink 6 to 8 cans of soda a day. I can't say I'm surprised to hear other people do that too.
                Yeah, me too. I loved Pepsi as a teenager. 6 cans daily was my rough intake for a good half decade.

                I know several people who still live that way.

                Dropping soda was the hardest thing I've ever had to do (healthwise). At the same time, of all the health conscious decisions I've made through the years I'm sure this was the most significant.


                • #9
                  Even when I was a sugar nut I only had about 1 glass of diet coke a day with my dinner. I never had it in cans because it tasted different to me. Now I let my brother have the can my grandad gives me every week.He comes round once a week with a bag of sweet stuff for us, which he and my late nana used to do for as long as i can remember, I can't bring myself to ask him to stop so I either eat some of it and let my pig of a brother have the rest or I'll give it to friends. The coke just tastes nasty now, but the caramel bar.. that's the difficult one to give way! xD
                  Bunny trainer extraordinaire!


                  • #10
                    I'm a paleo foodie, come check out my recipes:


                    • #11
                      Trust me, it isn't just young people. A typical day at our house is:

                      one or two cups of coffee w/2 tsp. sugar each
                      2 or 3 cans of Pepsi
                      around three glasses of Tang or Countrytime Lemonade
                      a large desert serving of something like bread pudding w/sweetened whipped cream and often as not
                      another large serving of the same later in the evening

                      None of the above goes into my mouth.

                      I've thought of calculating out just how many grams of sugar all that is, but it would would be an exercise in futility so I just try to ignore it.


                      • #12
                        I was raised on kool-aid and macaroni and cheese. I drank 2 liters a day Mountain Dew if I could. Lunch was a box of ho-ho's or something like that. Dinner was usually spaghetti. Parents put sugar in their tea and every school lunch food I ate was something starchy in a tube or box, or fake meat and fake cheese. Or pizza and a giant sugar cookie. I was told we'd beaten nature and didn't need to eat vegetables anymore, that this muck was safer and cheaper and still gave us what we needed. I believed TV and my parents did, too.

                        I thanks the Lord I am free of that extermination plot. My mom tries to change her habits, but it's too late for her. She'll eat meat and veggies for a day or two and then I'll find a huge bag of processed "chocolates" in her bed one day. And then the next. So feel blessed we could change. Those of us who escaped the trap are few and far between. The rest are still programmed to want the fake food, and get angry if you suggest otherwise.
                        Crohn's, doing SCD


                        • #13
                          When I was eating-disordered I'd drink loads of diet coke, probably 3-6 cans/day (who cares about chemicals when the calories are ZERO! *shakes head at former self*

                          Now, however, all soda tastes like crap to me.


                          • #14
                            Was never that into soda. The bubbles made it too hard for me to chug down. But I was an ice-tea addict from 7th-12th grade. That was all I drank. I went from Nestea to Brisk to Snapple to Arizona. I would drink it all day every day.

                            When I saw the number 6 I was like "Jesus I was never that bad" but after thinking about it, I totally was.

                            Its crazy how far some of us has come. Just 3 years ago I was a mess health-wise. I still remeber the moment I realized it haha. I was in the middle of stuffing my face in the closet when I realized I was eating an enormous amount of food. I was eating like I was still lifting weights, which I wasn't. I wasnt doing anything active at the time....

                            Life's weird guys.


                            • #15
                              I'm lucky in that the one thing my mom did right was refuse to buy us sweetened drinks. I drank water mostly growing up. As an adult I do love coke but I still only bought it as a treat (none at all now of course). I would have one on Sunday or when we went out to eat (which wasn't very often).

                              My kids get water at home. Soda is a treat, as is fruit juice. Day in, day out, we drink water.

                              I have a vegan friend who can't bring herself to drink water. She and her daughter drink sweetened drinks all the time. She's trying hard to change. I just mention she's vegan because usually we think of vegans as health food nuts, and she does otherwise eat a lot of healthy vegan (ok, carb and grain heavy) food. But then she washes it down with coke, lol! So maybe she and I even out to be the average