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    Might seem like a strange question, but does anybody know anything about the inflammatory properties of tomatoes and other members of the nightshade family?


    Potatoes are a member (and I don't eat them) but I was wondering if anyone knew if tomatoes could also be a problem? Given that I've been suffering from sciatica (unknown cause as yet) which results in inflammation, I was wondering what info there was available. Apparently arthritis can be exacerbated by them...


    Anyway, if anyone has any comments/opinions, do let me know!


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    Have you had a look at MSM? Its in some glucosamine supps, but taken alone in bigger doses it can work wonders. Google it and see what you think. I get a sciatic/pyriformis thing going on sometimes and I take it for a while and it goes away.

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      Thanks shelby. I'll take a look.

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        I take MSM too, its supposed to help with joints and allergies. I use it more for the allergies part though. Do yourself a favor... get the pills. I bought the powder b/c it was a better value and it is NASTY!!! But I am stubborn so I take it anyway.


        This coming from someone who LIKES seaweed, anchovies, natto, DARK chocolate and everything else people dont usually like. I can even take my liquid fish oil. Just FYI.

        Life on Earth may be punishing, but it includes an annual free trip around the sun!

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          http://www.fitnessspotlight.com/2008/01/06/nightshades/


          for a personal opinion / take on the matter. I've no idea if any objective studies have been done?

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            I thought tomatoes were a fruit?

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              I&#39;m sure SS - or is it Tarlach? - will chime in here. One or both are rapidly anti-solana (tomatoes, peppers, potatoes.) Indeed, a few people have sensitivity to something in them.


              Most of us? Not at all.


              Yes, MSM is NASTY in powder. But if you are PB, I realized, you don&#39;t need it. MSM is a dietary source of sulfur, which is needed for collagen, IIRC.

              Sulfur is very much in abundant in MEAT. Probably not so much for the diets rich in hearthealthylowfatwholegrains.

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                From an ATHLETE&#39;S perspective, I have found it extremely useful, regardless of my meat intake, which is high. MSM occurs in natural whole foods, fruit, veggies, meat etc, but with soil depletion is further lacking in our diet, just like magnesium and other minerals in some farmed areas.


                Nutrient absorption varies from person to person, so you cannot possibly speculate about what someone elses needs are. MSM works for myself and for my PB medal winning track sprinting masters athlete husband.

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                  "I believe in belief......"


                  Not saying you don&#39;t benefit, but unless you&#39;ve gone a month or two without, and then back on, repeated, it&#39;s hard to say. And even then, it&#39;s subjective.

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                    and to you dear chap, "tedium ad nauseum".


                    lol, I dont know why you insist on weighing in on issues you know NOTHING about, and ZERO experience of, but thats your prerogative, just like its mine to have a freakin opinion, and share what I know works . I have indeed gone on and off MSM and only use it when the problem reappears, and then it exits upon supplementation.


                    I have recommended it to about half a dozen people now, all whom benefited almost immediately, without any other changes to routine etc, bar one, and he had irritation from the sulfur and is celiac. All were meat eatin&#39; athletes. One guy couldnt even ride his bike anymore, took MSM and can ride again.

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                      OK - so I&#39;m going to trial no nightshade family plants for a month and see what happens. It turns out I have a herniated disc (the scans ain&#39;t pretty) whilst I was hoping it was piriformis, but it&#39;s worth a try! If I do have an intolerance, well cutting them out could help in other areas too, so what&#39;s the harm?!


                      I&#39;ll keep the MSM in mind, shelby. Not least because at some point I want to het back to my mountain biking!

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                        In Mark&#39;s sample menu, he uses salsa in the morning with his eggs as well as half a cup of green peppers (at least on this day). He also added 6 cherry tomatoes to his big ass salad, which I think is pretty standard for him. Honestly I don&#39;t think its that big of a deal.

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                          OTB it&#39;s Tarlach that doesn&#39;t eat solanas, I&#39;m not sure about SS. The inflammation issue is real for some people, but unless it causes noticeable discomfort I&#39;m sure most people don&#39;t even notice a problem. Some people are more sensitive than others, that&#39;s a given, right? So just like some of us are drastically and immediately affected by wheat while others can tolerate a sandwich every so often, I think solanas could be the same.


                          I ate a meal heavy in the eggplant/peppers/jalapenos/tomato the other day, and the following morning my hand was achey for hours which is decidedly abnormal. I&#39;m not sure it was the solanas, but I&#39;ll definitely be paying closer attention to how my hands and joints feel after eating them from now on.

                          You are what you eat,
                          and what you eat eats too - Michael Pollan

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                            Everyone is different. I can&#39;t tolerate gluten and most dairy. What suits some people doesn&#39;t suit others. It doesn&#39;t make those of us who can&#39;t digest some foods fussy eaters.

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                              Nightshades cause weird pains that you don&#39;t really notice.


                              It&#39;s only when you cut them out for a few months that you will realize that the aches and pains have gone.

                              I always used to have problems with my knees and that all disappeared when I cut out the nightshades.


                              I would recommend removing them from the diet for everyone.

                              The "Seven Deadly Sins"

                              Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . . Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
                              Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
                              Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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