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    Okay, So I'm 19 years old and I just recently discovered primal eating- working on it for a couple weeks maybe now. Right away, I noticed that I felt less bloated, my face looks thinner, and all my digestive issues are GONE. So, I'm excited to keep going and learning more. The thing is, I don't have that much weight to lose. I think I want to lose about 10 to 15 pounds - or excluding the scale numbers, I just want to decrease my body fat.

    This said, I have read that the last ten pounds are the hardest to lose. Everyone says to get past that "plateau," you should cut out nuts and dairy. This might sound stupid, but since I don't have a huge weight loss goal, is this 10 pounds going to be harder? Because I am fairly close to my goal weight, even though this is technically the "first ten pounds" and not the last, I don't know how to go about it. I actually just started adding cheese to my breakfast and using whole eggs instead of egg whites to get some fat. My diet was very low in fat before primal. I also don't eat red meat (and sorry, I'm not budging) so I eat alot of almonds in a day for a protein source and fat, I just snack on them. I drink almond milk and sometimes greek yogurt or cottage cheese. (Now full fat instead of fat free)

    So, do I cut out the nuts and dairy? I don't know what I would snack on then. I'm also trying to read Mark's articles on Omega 6 vs Omega 3 -SO CONFUSED. I need to actually make a study sheet or something haha. I know coconut oil and coconut milk is good but I can't find the oil and I don't know what to put the milk in.

    Sorry for the long post! Everyone seems so nice on here, any suggestions will help

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    Are you eating any meat at all? (chicken/fish/etc?)

    I’d hate to get protein from sources other than animals, too many issues and a hell of a hard time getting the right amount.

    Yeah, past that I have nothing to say, sorry.
    I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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    • #3
      I do eat chicken and fish. I just started. I have tilapia or salmon for dinner and put chicken or tuna in my salads

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      • #4
        Your first ten pounds is the same as the last ten pounds. Basically, saying the "last ten" is harder is just a shorthand way of saying that the closer you are to your goal weight, the more challenging losing weight can be.
        "Sometimes, you need to make sure the angel on your shoulder has a wingman." -Me

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        • #5
          I'm also trying to lose the last 10 lbs. I lost 10 lbs when I first started eating primal and thought that was going to be all that I wanted to lose, I have since realized I could lose another 10 and look great! I am having a heck of a time trying to get down further. I am on Day 17 with absolutely no dairy, no grains, and no sugar. I am trying to completely cut out nuts too as they are pretty much my go to food. I'd say start replacing your cottage cheese and yogurt with hard boiled eggs or tuna or something! Use coconut oil to cook your eggs in the morning or just grab a tablespoon of it on it's own! I put coconut mil in my tea or sometimes I make "sweet" scrambled eggs, mix eggs with coconut milk and cinnamon and scramble as usual. It's SO delicious!
          Hope some of that helps! I think it's all about carbs at this point. We really have to cut them down!

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          • #6
            In that case just keep it meat and veggies, follow the PB as outlined (workouts and all) if you really see no changes at all in a month (a month from now =] .. ) then you can start tinkering with things. It’s not worth it to do so early on, it almost inevitably leads folks to frustration and sometimes to develop a bad relationship with otherwise healthy and natural food.

            That being said, I wouldn’t eat so many nuts on a regular basis, highly caloric and easy to over-do. I see that adjustment as minimal in the grand scheme of things, like before somebody tells you to cut carbs to nothing, which is stupid.
            I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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            • #7
              Almonds shouldn't be where you get your protein from. I'm 18 and I'm in the same boat as you. They call it the last 10 lbs not because they're the last you're going to lose out of losing a lot but because you're 10 lbs within the ideal BF%. As you get closer to that BF% your body doesn't wanna give it up as easily than if you were at a higher BF% where it's obviously easier to let go of excess fat. You shouldn't be eating more than a handful of almonds a day, in my opinion. Your main nutrient sources should be chicken, fish, eggs, vegetables, fats (olive oil, coconut oil, coconut milk, ghee). Then, you can move onto fruits like blueberries/blackberries/etc., starchy vegetables like sweet potatoes and nuts and some full-fat dairy, but I'd say no more than 1 serving per day if you're looking to lose weight. Then after this range, you could have sensible indulgences, e.g. a bit of honey, some more sugar-heavy fruits, dark chocolate, red wine, etc...

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              • #8
                I use coconut milk in smoothies with berries, in Thai or Indian curries, or when I make ground nut banana porridge.

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                • #9
                  Thanks so much, this all really helps. - I'll definitely work towards everyones advice ! These first/last pounds don't stand a chance

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                  • #10
                    Mmm, that sounds good. I have to start reading up on recipes and making different dishes. I'm a horrible cook and my family is more of a - cheese sandwich for their dinner - kinda people

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                    • #11
                      Invest in Marks quick and easy cookbook! People really like it!

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                      • #12
                        Skip the dairy except for butter or cream, skip the nuts too. "Snacking" is one of those things that will keep you from losing those "last 10". And nuts are NOT a good source of protein. Eat animals and veggies with lots of butter 2 or maybe 3 times a day. Thats all. Try to fast too by skipping "breakfast". Fasting for 15+ hours a day is not difficult when you eat lots of veggies and buttr lol.

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                        • #13
                          I had no plan to lose weight, but it was most welcome when I did lose 10kg from going primal. It was over several months and involved several changes to my diet.

                          I recommend that you try changing one meal at a time and see if that works for you. When it does, move on to the next meal.

                          You shouldn't need to snack - that's a sure sign you need to tweak your meals
                          Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

                          Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ennasirk View Post
                            Your first ten pounds is the same as the last ten pounds. Basically, saying the "last ten" is harder is just a shorthand way of saying that the closer you are to your goal weight, the more challenging losing weight can be.
                            I disagree. The first ten pounds are all about limiting carbs to regulate blood glucose and lower insulin levels. The last ten pounds are all about taking your newfound insulin sensitivity and strategically applying heavy quantities of starch, then taking them away suddenly to fire up your metabolism. The more overweight you are, the easier it is to lose excess fat because leptin levels are elevated. When you are lean and trying to lose the last few and leptin levels are low...that's when it's difficult to lose it. You can't lose those last 10 pounds without elevated leptin! That's the hormone that tells fat cells to release fat!
                            Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                              I disagree. The first ten pounds are all about limiting carbs to regulate blood glucose and lower insulin levels. The last ten pounds are all about taking your newfound insulin sensitivity and strategically applying heavy quantities of starch, then taking them away suddenly to fire up your metabolism. The more overweight you are, the easier it is to lose excess fat because leptin levels are elevated. When you are lean and trying to lose the last few and leptin levels are low...that's when it's difficult to lose it. You can't lose those last 10 pounds without elevated leptin! That's the hormone that tells fat cells to release fat!
                              So carb refeeds? I've been stuck on a plateau for six weeks with practically no cheating on my diet and I'm also on the last 10 lbs to lose, so I'm interested. Do you advocate carb refeeds over cutting out dairy?
                              My food blog, with many PB-friendly recipes

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