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    Hi!
    BACKGROUND
    I have been doing this nearly 8 weeks now, and the first month I had great energy and lost weight. I am 5'7" and down to the low 130s now. I have been working out, 2 LHT, 1 sprint and the 3-5 hours of low level cardio each week. Over the course of the last 2 months, I have tinkered a little bit with things, and I have found my appetite decreasing a lot. When I count, I usually end up with maybe 1300 calories, 80-100g protein, carbs between 40 and 90 and the rest fat (say around 55% average).

    I have been having dairy until yesterday - I found it hard to remove it without decreasing my calories down to 1000 or 1100, which is just way too low. I am lactose intolerant, and I think I really want to get rid of it except things my body can naturally handle, which is very aged cheese. I eat a little nuts (sometimes 10 or 15 a day, sometimes none) and berries, but most days no fruit other than that.

    I have thyroid issues, and I went hyperthyroid (too much) in the last couple of months and have adjusted my medication back down, so this is probably part of the issue, anyways. As well, at home things have been much more busy than normal - my husband was working 70+ hours a week for the last month (finished now - whew!).

    THE ISSUE

    First month I had great energy and was losing weight. This month - maintaining weight and dragging my butt around trying to get things done. I like the weight loss, but honestly I would take the extra poundage if it meant more energy. I'd be happy to lose another 10 from here if I could (I am very small framed), but it is really not a huge deal. I want to get back to having better energy. I am on cytomel (T3) for my thyroid, so it usually bounces back fairly quickly (within days), and I do not feel bounced back yet, even though the dosage changed about 2 weeks ago.

    If anyone has any insights or ideas, I would really welcome them.

    Thanks, and have a great Mother's day weekend, everyone.
    Karin

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  • #2
    Can you put up a sample day's eats?
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    • #3
      breakfast (around 10am)
      1 egg, half can of salmon, 2 c spinach, half tomato, 3 mushrooms and 2 slices bacon
      Tea with HWC

      may snack on veg and 2-3 oz meat during afternoon, possibly nuts but not every day

      Dinner
      Usually chicken beef or pork, leafy green vegetables with coconut milk or butter, some other veggies too

      I was doing a snack of berries and greek yogurt at 7 or 8

      The last couple of days have been different - but that was my pretty basic diet for the last month or so
      Karin

      A joyful heart is good medicine

      He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot

      Mmmmm. Real food is good.

      My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread29685.html

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      • #4
        Have some white rice and/or sweet potato. You sound like you're really close to where you ought to be weightwise, and at that point, it's not so important to keep carbohydrates low, as long as you continue to eat natural foods. You could easily get away with 200g of carbs a few days a week. 150 or more every day, even. Give it a try.
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        • #5
          yeah, more carbs. Just enough to fill up your muscle glycogen after excercise. For example today i'm going to play basketball before work, aftwords i'll eat a meal with a sweet-potato. Sweet potato will fill up my glycogen, and anything leftover wont turn to fat since i'll burn through it at work. Rinse and repeat, all day.

          SImpler carbs like fruit are good to get up and running quickly again, say on break at work or in the middle of a game.

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          • #6
            Yeah, that was what I was wondering about. I had rice yesterday, which was a nice change. I may need to up the carbs a bit.
            Karin

            A joyful heart is good medicine

            He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot

            Mmmmm. Real food is good.

            My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread29685.html

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            • #7
              Do you have any symptoms other than the low energy? How is your sleep quality?

              If you are not eating liver, marrow, etc, it can be difficult to get all the vitamins you need, even with a healthy primal diet. I find that including bone marrow in my diet once a weeks keeps my energy up.

              Magnesium and/or potassium are also commonly deficient. It seems that a lot of people need to add Mg. I use the oil that you rub on your skin. It dramatically improves my sleep quality and my energy levels as well.

              ETA: Don't forget about your B vitamins too. A good quality B vitamin that contains methy B12 is great for energy too.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Grumpy Caveman View Post
                Have some white rice and/or sweet potato. You sound like you're really close to where you ought to be weightwise, and at that point, it's not so important to keep carbohydrates low, as long as you continue to eat natural foods. You could easily get away with 200g of carbs a few days a week. 150 or more every day, even. Give it a try.
                +1

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                • #9
                  Sleep is fine and micro-nutrients look good on the days that I track. I am taking a magnesium pill, multi, cal/mag+D, and iron, which I need to take. Nothing sticks out that I can think of in terms of nutritional deficiency. Even all the trace minerals look like I am getting enough.
                  Karin

                  A joyful heart is good medicine

                  He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot

                  Mmmmm. Real food is good.

                  My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread29685.html

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                  • #10
                    Try eating higher calories for a week. Maybe low energy from excessive dieting in long stretches.

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                    • #11
                      Second the increased carbs. Maybe try a high calorie day and see how you feel.

                      How much vitamin D are you actually taking? If it's in combo with calcium/magnesium, it is likely not enough.
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                      • #12
                        130lb is not much for 5'7" - puts you at the bottom of the normal BMI range. Are you getting at least 100g/day of protein (ie about 400-500g/day of meat)?
                        Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

                        Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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                        • #13
                          Meat/fish/eggs and fatty foods like avocado easily ramp up your caloric intake. You could try eating more of those.
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                          • #14
                            Yeah - I am trying upping my carbs and eating what seems like maintenance. I am maintaining anyways, so I might as well, LOL. I am taking 1500 D. I know this is less than some people say, but 5000D can be toxic, the tolerable upper limit is 4000. Dietary Supplement Fact Sheet: Vitamin D I also tan, which gives me some D too. The last couple of days when I have loosened up on my food, I feel better. I remember when I first started, I had to be careful not to dip down really low in carbs or I felt ill. Over a number of weeks, I gradually dipped back down to too low carbs without really realizing it. I am not good at under 50, and I am going to be ok with even up to 150 these days. I am going to have a couple more days like this and then log a day or 2 and see where I am at.

                            Good news, although I have not lost, I have not gained either.

                            Yeah - my weight is probably great for someone with more muscle. I need to work on the fitness side of things. I have a very small frame and could probably lose a bit more fat even at low 130s, but I imagine it is a better goal for me to work on my muscle mass right now.
                            Karin

                            A joyful heart is good medicine

                            He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot

                            Mmmmm. Real food is good.

                            My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread29685.html

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                            • #15
                              I am taking 1500 D. I know this is less than some people say, but 5000D can be toxic, the tolerable upper limit is 4000. Dietary Supplement Fact Sheet: Vitamin D I also tan, which gives me some D too.
                              Unfortunately, that dosage information is out-of-date, unless the units are different in Canada? (IUs= Internatonal Units) The Vitamin D Council has lots of up-to-date information, backed by research. I highly recommend getting your level tested and dose accordingly. Vitamin D is really a hormone pre-cursor, not a vitamin and is necessary for your body to function optimally. It is also essential for easy weight loss.

                              I have been taking 8,000 IUs for the last 18 months and it has made a HUGE difference in my health. I haven't been sick at all during that time--no colds, flu, etc...
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