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    I don't mean a serving of blueberries a day. What I mean is, say for instance if I were to eat 5 or 6 servings of apples and bananas (etc.) in a day. Exactly how bad would that be? I know this is completely blasphemous to the whole PB but I really have a hard time seeing fruit as unhealthy. It's fruit!! It's nice and colourful and appeals to our senses and we have a taste for it and fruit salads are yummy


    Thank you!


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    Fruit = tree candy!


    Consider that fruit is seasonal, and the wild versions are not nearly as large and sugary as we have developed recently.


    On the plus side, the fibre is slowing down the release of all that sugar.


    Personally, I'm okay with berries, but apples make me hungrier than I was before I ate it (never could work that out), and bananas and grapes are pure sugar.


    There are worse things to eat, but I honestly don't miss fruit.

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      I see nothing wrong with one or two pieces of things like apples or star fruit (it's tropical fruit) that aren't hideously sweet.


      Bananas, however, all sugars and starches.

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        Fruit is just natural candy. It's all sugar. Sugar is not healthy. Worse, it's addictive.


        The most I'll have anymore is a few ounces of raspberries or strawberries.

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          James,


          If you were to eat six bananas at about 27 gms. of carbs each, you would be consuming about 162 gms. of carbs from that alone.


          This would probably kick you right out of the "sweet spot" for losing weight, and give you a bunch of sugar your body probably doesn't need.


          Nobody here is saying that bananas are evil. But they will probably derail your weight loss, if that is what you're trying to do. You will probably also stop burning fat for energy, which is one great thing about PB.


          What are your goals???

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            Fruit is definitely high in sugar. Check out this blog:


            http://nephropal.blogspot.com/2009/10/sun-fruit-trees-and-ancient-man.html


            There are interesting relationships between summer & fruit & sun.

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              My goals are pretty much being and staying healthy. I'm not too fussed about weight loss because I'm happy with my body composition. I suppose I'll have to stop eating bananas and keep it to no more than some berries. I just really can't look at an orange and say "I'm not eating that! It's bad!"


              Thanks for all the replies!

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                I don't eat a ton of fruit, but I feel free to eat as much as I want. Fruit is packed with vitamins and phytonutrients. On the other hand, I don't need to lose weight; I might feel differently if I was overweight.

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                  Go to www.nutritiondata.com or use the USDA SR21 data bases, either online or downloadable. You are a bright kid, James, so I know you can "do the math".


                  The majority of fruits I've ever looked at have about equal amounts of sucrose and fructose. Sucrose, of course, is half fructose. Apples have a LOT more fructose that sucrose.


                  Now, does that make me go running away screaming, all that fructose? No.


                  First, I avoid it like the plague elsewhere, so I cut myself some slack. Two, as I've often try to remind folks here, it's not just the WHAT but the HOW MUCH that makes things bad for you. Third, even the guy that does that Sugar: The Bitter Truth video lecture, which is very anti-fructose, says in regards fruit: "The anecdote is in the poison." He means that because of cellulose and fiber, the fructose (and any sucrose)has a much slower release into your system than eating sugar. Your liver isn't going into "ohmygod" mode.


                  So, in moderation, have a couple of pieces a day. Even the infamous "PB Approved" blueberries and strawberries have a fair amount of sugars. Look 'em up.

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                    I get really irked by the whole fruit is just a candy bar on a tree thing. I LOVE fruit and think it is very nutritious and full of vitamins that I would have to otherwise supplement into my diet. Candy bars are processed refined peices of junk, with nothing in the way of nutrients to offer.


                    That being said, I am shocked at how little fruit I eat now that I'm primal. I have maybe one fruit a day, and many days go by without any. This is a huge departure from my previous diet of 6-8 servings of fruit a day.


                    My body just doesn't crave fruit as much, but it's cool that fruit has become a treat at the end of a meal, a dessert almost. (Maybe fruit is nature's candy after all!!! lol)

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                      I refuse to feel guilty for eating fruit. Especially in the summertime, I'll easily eat half a watermelon by myself, as well as some sort of frozen fruit smoothie after a hot bike ride.


                      Now, if I were trying to lose weight, I'd emphasize veggies over fruit simply because of the calorie difference. But I'm not, and I feel great when I eat fruit. I've never had a sugar rush or a sugar crash, so I assume my body is metabolizing it correctly. Note that I don't "just" eat fruit. I also make sure I get plenty of protein and fat throughout the day.

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                        I also have begun to appreciate fruit as dessert! I could never get into that before, but now that I have (pretty much) stopped eating sugar, I sometimes have fruit for dessert. Thawed strawberries in cream.... mmmmm.....

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                          @Annika: They should call them "phytonutrients" because they make your body fight against nutrients

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                            Maybe fruit is loaded with sugar and yadda, yadda but saying it's not "primal" is bunk. Sweet stuff is falling off a tree. Yeah, like Grok's not going to eat that.

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                              I eat a delicious Pennsylvania apple every day for my "dessert" and I'm still losing weight. I guess there's a number of people that need to avoid any fruit like the plague, but honestly, for a treat to satisfy the sweet tooth that doesn't cause a sugar crash, pass me an apple or bowl of strawberries.

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