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    So my wife does most of the shopping and food prep for our children and is not as primal as I am and I am fine with that. I try to set a good example and cook a lot on the weekends, usually very primal. All in all I am fairly satisfied with how my kids eat, it's not perfect but way better than typical SAD and better than I was as a child but also acknowledges some of the reality of 21st Century living, yes I do have fast food from time to time.

    One unfortunate thing has worked its way into our routine is Trader Joes Organic White Grape Juice. I am fine with occasional juice drinks and know they serve it at our preschool (but not at the kindegarten where our 5 year old will start in the fall). But it has turned into a battle of wills between my daughter and me. I usually cut it 50/50 with water and would be fine with that but my daughter will throw fits if it is not all juice. I have to pick and choose my battles and this is one that it is not worth fighting although I do not want to capitulate entirely.

    So my question for you all is, have you come up with a healthier alternative (that is lower sugar compared to pure juice)? Don't say water and milk as those are the usual drinks. I would also accept something with an artifical sweetener but I don't think it will work to only have regular juice a few days per week or only once a day, I need more of a go to thing I can just pour and get on with it every day of the week.

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    Start off diluting it slightly and then work your way down, if juice is the only thing that will work. If you do it gradually, she may not notice. We are not doing juice now, but when we did it was limited to 1 or 2 cups a day - otherwise my kids would drink juice all day and never eat anything. I knew one kid who actually did that and she didn't grow for a year until her mom was sent to a dietitian to review her diet.

    If you are ok with artificial sweeteners there are lots of drinks. I find artificial sweeteners sorta gross, so I don't know much about good choices there, sorry.
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    • #3
      My 2 year old daughter loves water with lemon or lime squeezed in there. Sometimes (when I'm on the ball) I'll make a jug of water and just squeeze a bunch of lemons in it. Then it's ready to go whenever she wants some. We also still give her diluted juice, usually 1/4 juice and 3/4 water.

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      • #4
        who cares if your daughter throws fits? you're the parent and it is your job to give her the right food.
        my kids like teas, many come with stevia which is naturally sweet.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Melody View Post
          who cares if your daughter throws fits? you're the parent and it is your job to give her the right food.
          Exactly. Don't be afraid of a 5 year old.
          You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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          • #6
            1. If you buy the jug (or whatever container it comes in) of juice, then dilute it by half inside the jug, so she never sees you dilute it, it could work around her. So you buy a bottle, pour out half (into an old bottle probably), then refill.
            2. Also, Bigelow does a fabulous raspberry tea. It's very, very berry. Just plain old raspberry tea.
            3. Have you tried almond milk?

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            • #7
              we buy 100% juice and initially diluted it by 50/50 (juice/water ratio) ... however dd is such a juice a holic - she won't drink h2o - so we started going to 25/75, and now instead of 3 juices at dcp she get 2 juices, and 1 kids camelbak bottle of h2o & 1 cup of goats milk. If she's consumed all her juice at dcp - she has to have at least 1/2 of her kids camelbak bottle before she can get any more "juice". If she's done that, then she'll get another juice of 10/90.

              Looking back I wish we'd never introduced juice but we did...w/ds he won't be getting juice on a regular basis just water and ebm
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              • #8
                If your kid is skinny, and the juice is just that - what's the problem with juice? Lots of good stuff in there as well - no?

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                • #9
                  Don't keep any in the house and then when she asks for it, you won't have any problems. She'll forget about it pretty quickly. I've weaned both ours off various things along the way and it's astonishing how quickly they adjust. I refuse to let my children drink sugar.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Melody View Post
                    who cares if your daughter throws fits? you're the parent and it is your job to give her the right food.
                    Agreed. My son throws fits, but he just drinks water. I don't force him but when he is thirsty he will drink the water. Sometimes we give him coconut water, but it is diluted and this is maybe once a week.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by racingsnake View Post
                      Don't keep any in the house and then when she asks for it, you won't have any problems. She'll forget about it pretty quickly. I've weaned both ours off various things along the way and it's astonishing how quickly they adjust. I refuse to let my children drink sugar.
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                      Juice is a lousy macro/micronutrient bargain.

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                      • #12
                        OP here, well for those who just say it is a matter of assering parental authority, for the most part I agree. However, there are two parents and my wife disagrees with me and is the primary caregive (she is a stay at home mom) so it is not that simple. Marriage is about compromise even if parenting need not always be so. Also, I don't think blanket prohibitions are the best thing in life but I am not sure how to do that with kids. Though we may tend to think otherwise, even the "Primal Blueprint" is about striking balance between orthodoxy and reality, hence the 80/20 principle. While I am in a profession that realizes shades of grey (rather than black or white absolutes), I know that young kids work better with bright lines and don't have the cognitive skills to apply things like the 80/20 principle to their life. Hence my desire to find something that could be a go to drink without undue restrictions (e.g., once day 6oz, etc.). I'm thinking taking a container, diluting it 50/50 might be an option since then my child would probably not know the difference.

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                        • #13
                          One day the juice just disappeared from our house. My kids (12,9,7, and 5) have water most of the time, sometimes they have almond milk or coconut milk. On very rare occasions they might have zevia (the caffiene-free varieties, though).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JeffC View Post
                            So my wife does most of the shopping and food prep for our children and is not as primal as I am and I am fine with that. I try to set a good example and cook a lot on the weekends, usually very primal. All in all I am fairly satisfied with how my kids eat, it's not perfect but way better than typical SAD and better than I was as a child but also acknowledges some of the reality of 21st Century living, yes I do have fast food from time to time.

                            One unfortunate thing has worked its way into our routine is Trader Joes Organic White Grape Juice. I am fine with occasional juice drinks and know they serve it at our preschool (but not at the kindegarten where our 5 year old will start in the fall). But it has turned into a battle of wills between my daughter and me. I usually cut it 50/50 with water and would be fine with that but my daughter will throw fits if it is not all juice. I have to pick and choose my battles and this is one that it is not worth fighting although I do not want to capitulate entirely.

                            So my question for you all is, have you come up with a healthier alternative (that is lower sugar compared to pure juice)? Don't say water and milk as those are the usual drinks. I would also accept something with an artifical sweetener but I don't think it will work to only have regular juice a few days per week or only once a day, I need more of a go to thing I can just pour and get on with it every day of the week.
                            i agree with the others, she will get over it, and i know that sounds harsh, but it's true.

                            i am a parent too, so i fully grasp the fine art of battle picking, but there are no battles to be picked when it comes to nutrition. i'd rather my son eat fruit than drink it, and i'd definitely avoid an artificial sweetener in lieu of sugar. if i had to pick my poisons, i'd just let her drink the juice. no good can come from giving your child artificial (synthetic) anything just so you can continue giving her juice sans guilt.

                            for some suggestions to help wean her off of fruit juices i agree with another person who said to dilute in the bottle so she won't visually see it being diluted. it couldn't hurt, although, kids are saavy and she'll know dad pulled a fast one when she goes to drink it.

                            you could try adding sparkling water instead of still water to dilute the juice and get a no sugar added juice; it'll be somewhat fizzy.

                            maybe try a different juice to water down for her. white grape juice isn't one of those juices that tastes ok watered down, regular grape juice is ok watered down, white grape juice..eh, not so much.

                            you can try making iced herbal teas for her where you control the amount of sugar/honey/stevia/fruit puree etc.. since you need something to just pull out of the fridge, make a pitcher ahead of time.

                            if you want her to get off of the juice entirely, maybe put a few frozen blueberries or some other frozen fruit in the glass of plain or sparkling water for her.

                            here is a link to a recipe for iced tea with fruit puree.

                            Ice Tea Made With Pureed Fruit | eHow.com

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JeffC View Post
                              OP here, well for those who just say it is a matter of assering parental authority, for the most part I agree. However, there are two parents and my wife disagrees with me and is the primary caregive (she is a stay at home mom) so it is not that simple. Marriage is about compromise even if parenting need not always be so. Also, I don't think blanket prohibitions are the best thing in life but I am not sure how to do that with kids. Though we may tend to think otherwise, even the "Primal Blueprint" is about striking balance between orthodoxy and reality, hence the 80/20 principle. While I am in a profession that realizes shades of grey (rather than black or white absolutes), I know that young kids work better with bright lines and don't have the cognitive skills to apply things like the 80/20 principle to their life. Hence my desire to find something that could be a go to drink without undue restrictions (e.g., once day 6oz, etc.). I'm thinking taking a container, diluting it 50/50 might be an option since then my child would probably not know the difference.
                              That sounds like a good solution to me.
                              Karin

                              A joyful heart is good medicine

                              He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot

                              Mmmmm. Real food is good.

                              My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread29685.html

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