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  • Originally posted by Mark7 View Post
    The tiny calories come from coffee and a nibble of sauerkraut i consume to keep my GI good during the lack of food.
    I have read good things about using sauerkraut while fasting. I use it during my longer fasts.
    65lbs gone and counting!!

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    • I find with fasting, i need to be cautious of the first food i introduce to my body after the fast otherwise i experience 'fast transit.' Sauerkraut seems to stop this from happening when consumed the evening of the fast.

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      • I'm in hour 33 of my fast, given the 4 hours for absorption after my meal Tuesday night. I'm going to break the fast at 8:00 tonight, in 8 hours. I feel thin as fuck. Energetic, too. I have been fasting regularly since I began Primal almost a year ago, but LeanGains style IF does not seem to give me results. (either that or I never did it long enough or consistently enough to even obtain results; or I just overate on my rest days.) The longer fasts have definitely always seemed to make me feel better and look thinner.

        I've been at a plateau for quite a while now, just trying to get rid of what's left of my love-handles and the fat at the bottom of my stomach. I think I'm going to begin doing the 40 hour fasts once a week, in addition to cutting out dairy, which just seems to be a problem when it comes to cutting. I will post an update in a couple months if it works ;D
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        • Dear PK,

          Spot on data. And great comments from your readers.
          Last edited by Health Divas; 04-22-2013, 01:45 PM.

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          • very interested in this, in for reading later

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            • pklopp, thanks for writing this up in such a clear way.
              My wife and I are already adapted to one meal a day (early dinner), it was very easy after a period of 6 months eating mostly primal (also LCHF kind of diet) but we have not pushed it yet to 44h fast. After reading your posts, I am very interested to try that, hopefully during the coming week-end!

              My biggest motivation is not so much to see my muscles (cool side-effect but I am not that narcissistic ) but to feel as good as I can. The nice consequence is on the wallet as well: much higher quality food for even smaller budget!!

              Cheers!
              J.

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              • PKlopp,

                Thank you for the wonderful thread here! I am on Day-2 of the 24 hour fast & am aiming for a whole week of 1-meal-a-day. I've been primal/LCHF for about 4 months so its easier to move into this rythm. I look forward to seeing how it affects the body over a 1 week period!

                Regards,
                Vishnu

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                • Originally posted by gopintos View Post
                  Santa had a bit on IF in his newsletter this morning. Should you Fast - At least Briefly?

                  Quick question. Say you start out with the best of intentions. But then you slip and have a little something something. Is it best to go ahead and have a decent amount of calories for the day (the whole calorie restrictive argument) or just resume fasting?
                  This is not a religion, we won't excommunicate you for a minor transgression. I would say, keep at the fast, but realize that this may prove very difficult due to awakening your appetite with that minor intake.

                  -PK
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                  Interested in Intermittent Fasting? This might help: part 1, part 2, part 3.

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                  • Hey PK, just wanted to say thanks. It's seldom that you find a post that's complete and thoughful enough to inspire action. I've been doing 20 hr fasts for a bit, but based on your posts, I've moved to my first 40hr fast. I'm in hour 26 and feel great.

                    As I'm sure you've answered this, I'll ask and NOT expect an answer. What is the best food to break a fast with? I vaguely remember eggs? I'd rather enjoy a big heap of fatty pork.

                    Thanks Again! Cheers!
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                    • I know this seems trivial, but I cannot find the answer lol!

                      But, within fasting, I realize you say you can drink coffee with a little bit of creme, etc. I read that this doesn't really effect the fast, even if it ends up being a couple hundred calories, but you want to try to limit the creme.

                      I have a few questions...

                      It seems that anything outside of water is still begin digested, right? Isn't part of the positive from IF that you're not digesting something (like coffee/creme) nearly 20 hours out of the day? Maybe it's just so negligible.

                      Also, I thought I saw someone say they use Heavy Whipping Cream instead of just regular creamer. For example, there's only 50 cals, 5g Fat, and 0 sugar/carb in something like Horizon Organic Heavy Whipping Cream. Would this be something that, with coffee, would be okay while you're not eating?

                      Thanks.

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                      • Yes to eggs

                        Yes to heavy Cream.
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                        • Originally posted by jackaaron View Post
                          Would this be something that, with coffee, would be okay while you're not eating?
                          Strictly speaking, the idea of fasting is to not have any calories. I'm of the mind that one should not consume any calories. I drink black coffee, iced tea with lemon, and water when I fast. The reason heavy cream is "ok" is that there are no carbohydrates in cream so there is (in theory) no insulin response and, presumably, no changes in the fasting levels of GH and glucagon.

                          So if you putting heavy cream in your coffee makes the difference between fasting and not fasting, then go for it. But my personal opinion is that fasting should be committed to in full. If you don't like black coffee (heresy), then don't drink coffee. Just don't think about food. Drink water. Get stuff done. Drink tea. Or ignore me, whatever. I just like the idea of fasting and going without, and everyone searching for loopholes always chafes.
                          I'm a weak man...If I give myself a few feet of leeway, I burst through all of my prohibitions.

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                          • Originally posted by ajm422 View Post
                            Strictly speaking, the idea of fasting is to not have any calories. I'm of the mind that one should not consume any calories. I drink black coffee, iced tea with lemon, and water when I fast. The reason heavy cream is "ok" is that there are no carbohydrates in cream so there is (in theory) no insulin response and, presumably, no changes in the fasting levels of GH and glucagon.

                            So if you putting heavy cream in your coffee makes the difference between fasting and not fasting, then go for it. But my personal opinion is that fasting should be committed to in full. If you don't like black coffee (heresy), then don't drink coffee. Just don't think about food. Drink water. Get stuff done. Drink tea. Or ignore me, whatever. I just like the idea of fasting and going without, and everyone searching for loopholes always chafes.
                            I'm with you.

                            I have two grande two pump vanilla Starbucks lattes a day though.

                            I don't like strait coffee, I like what my friends call, "foo foo" coffee. I've basically accepted that lol.

                            I thought that completely eliminating these lattes will be absolute terror for me even though I have been inching back as PK had suggested.

                            I started at 7am, and I'm now at 8:30am. I know I'm going to get to the one meal a day in about 2 months, but I don't know how I'm going to give up the caffein.

                            Who knows, maybe I will just drink black coffee.

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                            • Interesting thread.

                              Okay, I'll try my first 48hr fast this month, for kicks.

                              Does it count if I do it on the airplane and fly "forward in time" by 14 hours? That would make it only a 34hr fast in real time.

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                              • Originally posted by jackaaron View Post
                                I know this seems trivial, but I cannot find the answer lol!

                                But, within fasting, I realize you say you can drink coffee with a little bit of creme, etc. I read that this doesn't really effect the fast, even if it ends up being a couple hundred calories, but you want to try to limit the creme.

                                I have a few questions...

                                It seems that anything outside of water is still begin digested, right? Isn't part of the positive from IF that you're not digesting something (like coffee/creme) nearly 20 hours out of the day? Maybe it's just so negligible.

                                Also, I thought I saw someone say they use Heavy Whipping Cream instead of just regular creamer. For example, there's only 50 cals, 5g Fat, and 0 sugar/carb in something like Horizon Organic Heavy Whipping Cream. Would this be something that, with coffee, would be okay while you're not eating?
                                "Creme" has no specific meaning in English. "Creamer" is an artificial food-like substance designed to whiten coffee. It may have an ingredients list dozens of chemical compounds long. Hopefully you have been putting half-and-half or some other dairy product in your coffee. If not, it's time to give up creamer cold turkey.

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