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  • Could a person get all their nutrients from an all-meat diet?

    Just curious, not that I'm planning to do that (I love veggies too much.) If you ate an animal head to toe, could you get all your vitamins, minerals and fiber?

  • #2
    vitamins/minerals, yes. You don't need fiber.
    Everything in moderation, including moderation.

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    • #3
      If you ever do the carnivore route, prepare for one heckuva natural cleanse. Eating meat for a week straight gave me turkey trots like nobody's business! LOL
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      • #4
        The short answer is yes, but some throw in “… but that may not be optimal!” …

        I was actually JUST reading “zeroing in on health” (a zero carb/carnivorous blog/forum) because I find zero carb to be an interesting idea. However, something over there is rather confusing.

        Here in primal land we’re all about eating the whole animal, and usually when the discussion about an all meat diet comes up we always say “make sure you’re eating offal if you’re not going to eat veggies”

        Over there though, they don’t seem to really do that too much or even agree that it’s necessary. Liver especially, they don’t make a staple. I admittedly did not read through the forum too much (though I do plan to) so I’m taking this based on this post: Zeroing In On Health – The Blog! Pemmican where Charles (owner of ZIOH) quotes V. Stefansson (who ate meat only in the early 1900s and wrote a lot about it) about how most of the time the liver and most offal would go to the dogs, the kidneys to the children and the meat/fat to the grown ups.

        I thought that was interesting since it almost directly contradicts what I read here.
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        • #5
          didnt some early adventurers die because all they ate was rabbit? Something about how the meat was so lean it poisoned their systems.. (I'm not a doctor, as you might have guessed )

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          • #6
            Originally posted by iniQuity View Post
            I thought that was interesting since it almost directly contradicts what I read here.
            Ahh yes .. but everything is a contradiction isn't it? makes it for an interesting nutritional adventure
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            • #7
              Originally posted by mikeyt View Post
              didnt some early adventurers die because all they ate was rabbit? Something about how the meat was so lean it poisoned their systems.. (I'm not a doctor, as you might have guessed )
              Yes this is known as Rabbit Starvation and it’s basically eating protein and nothing but. A meat only diet should always be higher in fat than in protein.

              Let’s clear up right now, when saying “all meat diet” we are (or should be) referring to a diet that includes not just muscles but organs as well.

              V. Stefansson spent a year in a controlled study where he and another subject ate nothing but meat, however their diet breakdown was actually 80% and 20% protein. I distinctly remember reading they ate brains cooked in bacon fat quite often, that’s basically a meal of fat with very little protein. You can read more about that here, I strongly encourage everyone to read it: Stefansson 1 - Eskimos Prove An All Meat Diet Provides Excellent Health.

              I’m looking to get more written works by V. Stefansson.

              Another major player in the meat-only world was The Bear (RIP) who also said “eat all the fat first, then the lean”

              That’s the ONLY thing I’d have issue with, is eating a lot of fat without too much meat. I can eat steaks all day long, but JUST fat is hard for me to eat, very hard.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by iniQuity View Post
                Let’s clear up right now, when saying “all meat diet” we are (or should be) referring to a diet that includes not just muscles but organs as well.
                And bone broth!

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                • #9
                  I'm just wondering about optimal amounts of potassium and magnesium. I mean theoretically one could avoid deficiency, but how does one get above the RDA of those two nutrients with only meat?

                  Does anyone know the nutrition facts for bone broth? Seems like that would include some K and MG, but how much?
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                  • #10
                    I have been making and drinking bone broth recently. What are the specific things that it is supposed to add to your diet that you couldn't get from muscle meat?
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                    • #11
                      only if you were eating those meats which are high in vitamin C (game meats i beleive) otherwise you'd develop scurvy.


                      and as funkadelic said you'd need to make sure you were eating bone broth or some other cooked, collagen rich part of the animal in order to obtain gelatin (an all meat diet which contains only muscle meat can cause hypothyroidism)
                      Last edited by greg_C; 04-18-2011, 01:12 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Stabby View Post
                        Does anyone know the nutrition facts for bone broth? Seems like that would include some K and MG, but how much?
                        I've been wondering this for a long time. Granted, it's going to madly vary between batches due to bone types and quality, amount of reduction, and simmering time. Still, ballparks ranges would be awesome.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JKC View Post
                          I have been making and drinking bone broth recently. What are the specific things that it is supposed to add to your diet that you couldn't get from muscle meat?
                          Gelatin, and it's very important.

                          some reading:
                          Gelatin, stress, longevity

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                          • #14
                            Halibut, Tuna, and Cod contain about 500-700mg potassium (15-18% DV) in 4 ounces.
                            Halibut also contains 121 mg magnesium and salmon slightly more (>30% dv). Tuna and shrimp also contain good amounts.
                            I assume other fish would supply some of these minerals aswell aswell, and it is certainly worth noting that the Inuits which are the only (seasonal) carnivores afaik are eating mainly fish and not beef and game. My random unscientific guess would also be that absorption is going to be superior from animal rather than plant sources since they contain more protein and the minerals will be founds as chelates.
                            Got the numbers from worlds healthiest foods site btw.

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                            • #15
                              Indeed, I am desperately wants to know what the mineral content is, but even without the mineral content it's fabulous stuff. If everyone has a bone broth meal per day they will improve their health. We talk a lot about "what Grok did", well Grok ate gelatin and lots of it. A great deal of any animal's protein is in skin, connective tissue and bones.
                              Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

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