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    Friends - my wife won't adapt to full "primal" and will continue to drink coffee. She has one a day with milk.

    Since both dairy milk and soy milk have negative affects on the body - what would be the best choice to reduced the "severity" of the impact these products will do to the body.

    The choice would be wither full-fat, organic dairy milk or organic, whole soy bean milk which has some added sugar etc.

    It will only be a "dash" in her 1-a-day cup.

    Thanks.

  • #2
    the choice is full fat organic coconut milk especially if she's only a "dash" person.
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    • #3
      Is a quarter-cup of milk at most going to cause an issue? If not, and she really enjoys her coffee, I think she should use what tastes best to her.

      My 'cheat' is coffee with 4% milk and half a teaspoon of sugar. It lets me start my day in a good place
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      • #4
        1. unless she is lactose intolerant, a little bit of milk is very unlikely to affect her health in a noticeable way.
        2. Heavy cream has very little lactose and is mainly saturated fat pure and simple, if she likes it (who doesn't) that's what I recommend instead of milk.
        3. Please please read the book - you list soy milk as an option and want advice on it, which indicates you haven't really learned the basics yet even though you sound like you are about to do a very strict version of Paleo / Primal. It's called the Primal Blueprint by Mark Sisson.

        edit: I am sitting here drinking my coffee with heavy cream thinking, maybe I'm not adapted to "full primal" either - but then I remembered that Primal allows coffee and even dairy in limited quantities. Please read the book, or if you are referring to "Strict Paleo" then you should say that. But it sounds like you've got some reading ahead of you.
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        • #5
          Hook her up with coconut crack creamer. She will never go back!

          Given the choice, I pick moo juice every time. Soy... *shudder*
          Almond milk is a better choice than soy IMO
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Chrisflyer View Post
            Friends - my wife won't adapt to full "primal" and will continue to drink coffee. She has one a day with milk.

            Since both dairy milk and soy milk have negative affects on the body .
            Soy is evil plant semen and must be avoided, but baring lactose intolerance, what negative effects does dairy have, Melbournite?

            Go milk or cream, or coconut milk if you can stand it.

            Don't go near soy.

            Ever.

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            • #7
              The only time in my life that I got cellulite was when I drank soy milk every day- it completely disappeared once I gave it up. I don't do dairy any more either, I don't have any lactose intolerance symptoms, but I feel a million times better without it and it definitely contributed to my candida over-growth. I think the milk is a better choice than soy obviously, but you don't necessarily need to be lactose intolerant for it to have a negative impact on your health. Maybe she would like almond, macadamia or some other nut milk?

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              • #8
                Soy does not produce milk in any form- it's bean juice, and there are a lot of negative effects from the phytoestrogens that mimic estrogen in your body.

                I would venture to guess that people who don't tolerate soy well are probably up there in number with people who don't tolerate grain.

                Almond, coconut, dairy- all better options than soy.

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                • #9
                  easy coffee creamer: blend 1 can coconut milk (it usually seperates in the can) with 1t vanilla. Refrigerate. 2 scoops per cup is as good as any other creamer I've ever used. Otherwise, I guess organic half and half or heavy cream are the next best options

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                  • #10
                    If soybeans were intended to make milk, they'd be born with nipples.

                    Jus' sayin'...
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                    • #11
                      coconut milk
                      almond milk

                      both would be better choices than soy and if dairy causes her problems why drink it?

                      hazelnut milk if you can find it is yummy in coffee)

                      Be careful when shopping for nut milks...many have added sugar. Get unsweetened.
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                      • #12
                        No contest here - dairy is preferable to soy product. Since going primal I've been using heavy cream in my tea and coffee. Tried coconut milk but it ruins my cuppa Earl Grey.
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                        • #13
                          As you've gathered, we're not too keen on soy here. I know cow and soy are often the only two options in many stores. If you don't have good access to a store with more variety, there are shelf-stable nut & coconut milks available. You can order online.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Eklecktika View Post
                            If soybeans were intended to make milk, they'd be born with nipples.

                            Jus' sayin'...
                            LOL!!!

                            say no to soy.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HillsideGina View Post
                              No contest here - dairy is preferable to soy product. Since going primal I've been using heavy cream in my tea and coffee. Tried coconut milk but it ruins my cuppa Earl Grey.
                              Unsweetened almond milk is good in Earl Grey as a dairy alternative.

                              But yeah, go with heavy cream, or if she doesn't like that, then whole milk (not homogenized) over soy any day!
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