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    Is it really necessary to eat carbs directly after workout? Or is it just important if you are looking to fill up your glycogen so that the recoveries are quicker? I think I read something about this, that it will take your body about 24 hours to recover if you directly eat carbs after workout, and up to 48 hours if you are miss it.

    I used to eat a banana + some almonds directly after workout while I prepare the PWO meal. I only train 3x a week so for me recovery is not a problem. Although I'm hitting stagnation for the first time (I lift really hard). I started today to not eat anything directly after workout, and add sweet potato in my PWO meal approximately 1 hour later.

    Can anyone share their PWO routines (preferably power athletes).

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    • #3
      Bananas may be on the ok list for PWO, not sure, but you want glucose PWO, not fructose. Think yam, sweet potato, starchy vegetables (maybe even squash?). Iv'e gathered that starch is only needed when doing a metcon/ HIIT (max effort stuff) thing and not needed if just doing weight training. Not sure if a starchy carb PWO is good for weight loss though, but it is my understanding that if you don't refill your glucose on those exhausting days, and if you do them frequently, you can end up crashing pretty bad. Check out Robb Wolf's podcasts he goes into detail about this stuff and, like Mark, is a fantastic and entertaining resource.

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      • #4
        This is one of those “it depend” issues.

        To echo Neoberserker, if you routinely engage in “metcon” style workouts where you’re doing max effort stuff you *may* be better off with some starch post workout. If you’re mostly working on strength training with plenty of rest, you could just need protein afterwards.

        I got used to NOT eating directly post-workout and for at least an hour, especially when I do some type of HIIT training (say, sprints) because HGH is released during such workouts (if your face feels warm, looks red, HGH is flowing) and HGH helps burn more fat while if you eat, insulin is released and insulin shuts down HGH secretion almost right away. It may be paranoid, but I like to play it safe and wait at least a half hour if strength training, and at least an hour if sprinting. I take this time to cook, shower and relax a little, then I eat.

        Google “crossfit on a low carb paleo diet” to see an account by Mat Lalonde and his experience on 2 months VLC and crossfitting 4x/week. I’m currently doing VLC as well to see how it plays out for me.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by theone View Post
          Is it really necessary to eat carbs directly after workout? Or is it just important if you are looking to fill up your glycogen so that the recoveries are quicker? I think I read something about this, that it will take your body about 24 hours to recover if you directly eat carbs after workout, and up to 48 hours if you are miss it.

          I used to eat a banana + some almonds directly after workout while I prepare the PWO meal. I only train 3x a week so for me recovery is not a problem. Although I'm hitting stagnation for the first time (I lift really hard). I started today to not eat anything directly after workout, and add sweet potato in my PWO meal approximately 1 hour later.

          Can anyone share their PWO routines (preferably power athletes).
          Is your goal mass, strength, both or other?
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          • #6
            i dont worry about PWO carbs persay...i can feel it in my body with my glycogen is depleted and it comes at random times....sometimes i havent done a damn thing but i can feel my body needs some starch/sugar...some days after i deadlift all i want is meat...i think its more important to give you body what you feel it needs, and learn to listen to it. long process but if you pay attention to your body and not your physcological desires(thinking you crave like bread or a jar of coconut butter) then youll learn what you need and when you need it
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            • #7
              Personally, I need carbs before a heavy lifting workout.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MalPaz View Post
                i dont worry about PWO carbs persay...i can feel it in my body with my glycogen is depleted and it comes at random times....sometimes i havent done a damn thing but i can feel my body needs some starch/sugar...some days after i deadlift all i want is meat...i think its more important to give you body what you feel it needs, and learn to listen to it. long process but if you pay attention to your body and not your physcological desires(thinking you crave like bread or a jar of coconut butter) then youll learn what you need and when you need it
                per se***

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by iniQuity View Post
                  This is one of those “it depend” issues.

                  To echo Neoberserker, if you routinely engage in “metcon” style workouts where you’re doing max effort stuff you *may* be better off with some starch post workout. If you’re mostly working on strength training with plenty of rest, you could just need protein afterwards.

                  I got used to NOT eating directly post-workout and for at least an hour, especially when I do some type of HIIT training (say, sprints) because HGH is released during such workouts (if your face feels warm, looks red, HGH is flowing) and HGH helps burn more fat while if you eat, insulin is released and insulin shuts down HGH secretion almost right away. It may be paranoid, but I like to play it safe and wait at least a half hour if strength training, and at least an hour if sprinting. I take this time to cook, shower and relax a little, then I eat.

                  Google “crossfit on a low carb paleo diet” to see an account by Mat Lalonde and his experience on 2 months VLC and crossfitting 4x/week. I’m currently doing VLC as well to see how it plays out for me.
                  Yeah he said that in his article, but what you didn't read, and i beleive he later stated that he wishes he can take these articles down, is that he eventually crashed hard after doing heavy metcons. He said he needed to consume like 3 pints of ice cream in order to get back his energy levels. He says if you are going to be burning carbs, then eat carbs. Of course everyone is different. Listen to Robb Wolf's podcast episode 68 where Mat Lalonde is a guest and explains this in greater detail.

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                  • #10
                    My goal is to gain muscle. I am almost 2 meters and could easily gain 10 kg (I weigh 82-83 kg). My twinbrother does a gallon of milk (advise from Mehdi at stronglift) and has gained a lot of fat. I want to do it naturally, so that I can stay ripped and at the same time put on muscles. Maybe I will try to add a whole fat milk PWO and see if it works. I am of Scandinavian origins, so I may think I handle dairy.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by theone View Post
                      Is it really necessary to eat carbs directly after workout?
                      If your liver is indeed depleted of glycogen, fructose can help replenish it. So that may be a good time for some sugary fruit. Also, apparently protein timing is important as well.

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                      • #12
                        I just eat what I feel like and lately that has been meat, fat and carbs. I don't have any preworkout meal so I am usually quite hungry after I finish and as soon as I left the gym today I bought a roast lamb meal with potato, peas and carrots. I specially asked for the fattiest bits of meat too.
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                        • #13
                          I eat a pretty large amount of starch from sweet potatoes and white potatoes post-workout. I recently started to use 5/3/1 for my main lifts, but add quite a few sets on top of the 3 main ones and also do sled drags and stuff that I think is glycogen-depleting. I think I've gotten the best results as far as gaining mass while staying lean by including carbs and lean meat for my post-workout meal and eating Primal at other times. Matrin at Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health knows what he's talking about.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bushrat View Post
                            I just eat what I feel like and lately that has been meat, fat and carbs. I don't have any preworkout meal so I am usually quite hungry after I finish and as soon as I left the gym today I bought a roast lamb meal with potato, peas and carrots. I specially asked for the fattiest bits of meat too.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by theone View Post
                              My goal is to gain muscle. I am almost 2 meters and could easily gain 10 kg (I weigh 82-83 kg). My twinbrother does a gallon of milk (advise from Mehdi at stronglift) and has gained a lot of fat. I want to do it naturally, so that I can stay ripped and at the same time put on muscles. Maybe I will try to add a whole fat milk PWO and see if it works. I am of Scandinavian origins, so I may think I handle dairy.
                              The theory behind the "gallon of milk a day" plan is that you will gain both fat and muscle, but it is easier to lose fat than gain muscle. You are supposed to build muscle with fat over it, then lose the fat to show the muscle.

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